Brothers and Sisters.
First of all my humble appreciation to those of you trying to keep the tenor of this board above that of an elementary school playground taunt.
Now down to biz. (someone please cue up the old James Darrin classic “Goodbye Cruel World I’m off to Join the Circus”).
We have just witnessed, in just one short week, a microcosm of the Democratic Party in action. Those great avatars of “change” and “hope” have managed to plunge the discourse finally and forever into that of race and gender. No playing anymore. No hinting around. No wink wink nod nod. And, here’s the fun part: if you squint good and hard and stare right through the smoke of this recent train wreck, you can see silver haired, forked tongued John McCain striding in this direction, all flushed and grinning. And…Oh My God!!!…he’s wearing that damned flight suit!
Needless to say, I’m talking about Preacher Gate, the guilt-by-association toxic landfill that Obama now find himself in the middle of. The senator has rejected, repudiated, denounced, folded, spindled, and mutilated his preacher’s “inflammatory” utterances, and in so doing he has kept the story alive, while trying very hard to make it go away.
The only thing America, at least white America, would find more distasteful than a “national dialogue on Race” would be, let’s see, maybe a “national dialogue on HIV”? Us white folks don’t like to talk about race. Makes us feel uncomfortable. Brings out the liberal guilt…or the bigotry, depending on which side of the cultural divide you stand.
Of course, the real issue here is the paper thin support many reluctant “independents” were showing for Obama. I’m convinced many of them tried very hard to pretend he wasn’t really a black guy, sort of like Bill Cosby or Ed Bradley. They will be reminded during the general election campaign if Obama makes it that far. Forget Bill Cosby. He’ll be H. Rap Brown when the Swift Boaters get a hold of him.
Hmmmm. A hundred more years of War in the Middle East. Torture. Corporate Greed. Big Oil. Big Pharm. McCain….I suppose I could adjust.
Personally I think Barrack Obama is getting three moves or more ahead of the two republicans Hillary and Mc KKKlan. He got out front on his spiritual leader issue (my self I read or heard nothing that was not true by his pastor) so when the right wing fascist Christian element goes after Obama then he will get to address their total fucking insanity they preach. I think Obama is very thoughtful and he is the one the other two republicans are adjusting to yet he is setting and raising the standards for the political fight to come.
Good job President Barrack Obama!!!!!!!!
Comment by Jesse east county — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 8:48 am
Jessie; We can only wish, when only listening to the rational and sane dialogue it all makes sense. After listening to the caller yesterday,(you know) the one who had Kool Aid dripping from the corners of his mouth and was spouting insane utterings about Iraq weapons of mass destruction,etc.we come face to face with the knuckle draging citizen Stacy has talked about in the past and no amount of truth or facts will jar their pea brains to think otherwise. I see the Bush,s love ratings have,again gone in the toilet and were going to elect a clone or worse again? woops!, wev’e already done that once already, Stupidity usually gets what they get (or worse) WHO YA GONNA CALL?
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 10:08 am
Obama’s speech was brilliant and to a certain extent, his preacher is correct. There is still a great divide between the races and I understand his anger & frustration. If people would just stop and take a look at what he’s saying and try to empathize, I’d bet Obama would be our next president. However, as exhibited by the American people over and over again, we’re just not that smart, i.e., we elected Bush, not once, but twice. (Of course, none of us here voted for him either time).
Maybe it’s time to stop focusing on the presidency and work on electing a democratic supermajority to congress. We can still get the troops out of Iraq that way, and make a lot of headway on all the other very important issues such as our economy, healthcare, veterans affairs, etc.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 10:41 am
Maybe it’s time to stop focusing on the presidency and work on electing a democratic supermajority to congress. We can still get the troops out of Iraq that way, and make a lot of headway on all the other very important issues such as our economy, healthcare, veterans affairs, etc.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 10:41 am
That’s exactly what we should be doing. That way no matter who the president is the agenda will be that of the people.
Comment by nobody special — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 11:23 am
Ummmm…not so fast. I voted against Gore , so you could say I voted for bush, first time. (i didnt think gore should be rewarded for sitting silently by that clinton creep, and the butchery we helped along in Central Europe. Plus. )
the Dims, as a party, dont represent me, (Maybe in Trumans day they did) having a majority of the little busybody creeps in the House and Senate AND the WH will be more of the same, only , um, different. So count me out of thinking the Dims will save us all.
(new keyboard:yay!)
havin said that, the Mutt Compound is full of dread this manufactured preacher …..what? “horsecrap” will do-coupled to the Hilbats continuing to lower the debate might well mean the Hilbat is the nom. Which means McC is the prez……which means the torture, the war, and the profiteering will roll on, as the once interesting USA becomes just another bananarepublican Tommorrowland…..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
Mutt, were you alive when Truman was president? The Dems will be an improvement, no?
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 1:47 pm
I’m not a joiner, never have been and never will be in the 21st century, only exceptions were Joining the Navy to keep out of the grunt war in Korea town and the Boy Scouts in grammer school, thats it! so the idea of joining the dems to save our rights is ludicrous. To break this chain of theavery is going to take a third or even fourth party to get an iron grip on this government to rid us of this military industrial complex. Some say to take over the dem party from the ground up and re-make it, could be an idea but I see corruption so intrenched in this party, starting from scratch seems a better idea. HOW? I’m not that smart. The statement: (becomes just another banana republic) Holy Shit, wev’e been one for he last seven and a half years.
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
I can remember, tho I was just a real little kid, we were at War….in Korea. Everybody was aware of it. Not like today.
http://action.credomobile.com/comics/2008/03/pick_a_side_sparky.html
I rest my case…….and Knife is correct. I toy with the notion the Dims can be taken over, but its a long shot. More likely is they can be cowed into doing the right thing, now & then. More viable parties are always welcome. The narrower the focus, the smaller the base. And you have to overcome most peoples unwilingness to participate, no more crazy than being unwilling to go touristing in a crack house…..given a of of history, and the fact huge efforts are made to discourage people from participating.
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 2:17 pm
Obama has been shown now to be just another racist. I sure don’t want anyone to be President that would look to anyone like Wright for advise. He clearly likes his racist preacher more than he likes his country. not for me.
Comment by Bruce — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 2:32 pm
George Washington didn’t want a party system at all. He was smart. But we have a two-party system and we have to live with it. I don’t see any other party rising up, so we might as well make the best of what we’ve got and I truly believe that there are more good dems out here in the world than bad or corrupt ones. I refuse to believe that our elected officials go to work and say, “how can I scam the American people today?” I think they go to work with the intent of doing a good job. No one wants to believe their own work is bad or that they as people are bad, or selfish, or corrupt. (Even George Bush can’t face facts that he’s the worst president ever). That being said, in every profession there is good and bad. Don’t lump all politicians into the corrupt category. And, if you don’t like what’s going on, join us (whether you’re a joiner or not) help to change things to the way you’d like.
BTW, a Gallup poll has Hillary significantly ahead of Obama today, 49 percent to 42 percent, + or - 3. I don’t care what you guys think about Hillary, she’s still my girl.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 2:40 pm
that is a pretty naive scene you painted. Most politicians go into office with some money and come out rich. how do you think that happens. they are all on the take in some form or another. The only way to stop it is to make them all disclose their tax returns and financial statements every year. I don’t think that all of our politicians are so civic minded that they all want to stay in public office forever once they get in the first time. they just keep going from one office to another and if they get termed out, they run for another office. They don’t want to lower their standard of living by taking a real job in the private sector. they may have to go back to work then as well.
Comment by Bruce — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
It’s rich how the right-wing haters are bleating about that big meany, Rev. Wright, and all the real mean things he said that make right-wingers start to cry.
Meanwhile, the righties love to spew hateful stuff all the time. There’s a song that’s been sung at Republican conventions with really disgraceful lyrics about America — Thanks to Southern Beale for the post about it: “Where was the outrage? What talking heads, columnists, pundits, newscasters have mentioned this as the Obama-Rev. Wright issue has hit the headlines?”
Comment by goodguy — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
Also at Southern Beale Song Post
Comment by goodguy — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 3:25 pm
“But we have a two-party system and we have to live with it. ”
Jeez, no we dont. We had a King once, too- didnt live with that. And GAWD ordains Kings, or so we are told. theres nothing, zip, nada in the organization of this country that sez we have to settle for Tweedledumb or Tweedledumber. And I think waaaay to many pols wake up every morning and say:” How can I advance the power of my Party.” A VERY interesting group, with a track record of achievement, which is distinctly “antiparty” is Downsize DC.org. Check out their positions, from the War (opposed it way before we launched) to Congress passing bills it never reads, I get a few messages from them a week, and very rarely do I think they are off the mark. NOTHING in the Dim platform argues they will undo the Cheney power grabs, the wars, or hold to account individuals who have committed gave crimes here & abroad. Not a damn thing. I hold no illusions. I dont think illusions make for sound politics…..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 3:49 pm
If you think we can change our 2-party system, have at it.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Link to the Maliki- Chimp “agreement” Stacy referenced today…..
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0320/p02s01-usmb.html
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
we might as well make the best of what we’ve got and
You are so right Lorelei. We have to start from where we are.
Comment by Virginia M — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 6:06 pm
I’m back from the desert. Spring is here. It was gorgeous to be out there in the quiet away from the distractions and noise.
Southern Beale is the greatest.
Comment by Virginia M — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
It’s over, folks. Not even a Jesus/Buddha/name your saint can save this country. Get used to it. Leave, if you can, otherwise plant a garden. Share that potential food and land with someone not afraid to use a gun against marauders. Get a compostable toilet for when the water supply is shut off. Fashion a solar oven, or buy one if you have the money, and learn to freakin deal with it. Hell, if you have a dead car, you can cook pizza in it during hot weather. Get some chickens (build a chicken tractor–google it–to keep them safe) and graze the land. Save all your roof-runoff rainwater. Compost. Find new ways to reuse stuff that would otherwise go in your recycle bin.
Look, pretend it’s a camping trip. Soon, it will be more than that!
Of all the candidates, Obama is the least offensive, but he’ll either be gunned down or otherwise whacked out. We are in for the big time END OF AMERICA (all empires fall). Get fuckin used to it. In the meantime, buy stocks of food you eat, and save water. Learn self-sufficiency skills.
And don’t give me a hard time for asking/pleading that you prepare. For all I know, the worst that will happen this year is an earthquake. Our evil government has showed us they’d rather watch us die, via Katrina, in the dirty water than drop fresh water. The U.S. government is evil, no doubt about it.
I hate the government. The only people that love it are the bigass corporations–socialism for the corporations, fascism for the people. That sucks!
Recall, the prez said we are in an ownership society–i.e., unless you own it, you are shit out of luck. The good side is that IF there is a higher level of anything, we who believe will be there.
Comment by Kathleen — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 6:15 pm
BTW, a Gallup poll has Hillary significantly ahead of Obama today, 49 percent to 42 percent, + or - 3. I don’t care what you guys think about Hillary, she’s still my girl.
Lorelei, I’m with you. We have got to defeat McCain and Obama is just too vulnerable and untried.
Comment by Virginia M — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 6:17 pm
Give it a rest, Virginia. We are NEVER EVER going to recover from this. Period. And it serves us right. Deal with it. The U.S. is FINALLY getting its due for pillaging and stealing for greed not need. Too bad the citizens never paid attention. The only folks who prosper from war are those who make ammo. Let us hope there is a just God/Gawd/Goddess. Ha!
Comment by Kathleen — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 6:45 pm
Personally I think Barrack Obama is getting three moves or more ahead of the two republicans Hillary and Mc KKKlan. He got out front on his spiritual leader issue (my self I read or heard nothing that was not true by his pastor) so when the right wing fascist Christian element goes after Obama then he will get to address their total fucking insanity they preach. I think Obama is very thoughtful and he is the one the other two republicans are adjusting to yet he is setting and raising the standards for the political fight to come.
Good job President Barrack Obama!!!!!!!!
Comment by Jesse east county — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 8:48 am
Ah actually it’s the Democratic party that has Clansmen in it’s leadership. Like KKK Byrd for example.
Comment by fishfinger — Thursday, March 20, 2008 @ 8:14 pm
Wrong again FF only in christianity can KKK members enjoy your heaven along with their victims hand in hand as the walk through the clouds with jesus. Remember Ted Bundy and his last minute conversion what a belief system. When Ted Bundy entered the pearly gates did jesus and Ted’s Victims join hands in a circle and sing amazing grace? Tell me FF you have all the facts on this matter
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 5:24 am
Only in christianity can KKK members enjoy heaven along with their victims hand in hand as the walk through the clouds with jesus. Remember Ted Bundy and his last minute conversion what a belief system. When Ted Bundy entered the pearly gates did jesus and Ted’s Victims join hands in a circle and sing amazing grace?
Interview with James Dobson and Ted Bundy
http://www.pureintimacy.org/gr/intimacy/understanding/a0000082.cfm
James C. Dobson: It is about 2:30 in the afternoon. You are scheduled to be executed tomorrow morning at 7:00, if you don’t receive another stay. What is going through your mind? What thoughts have you had in these last few days?
Ted Bundy wanted to tell the world about pornography
What was it that Ted Bundy was so anxious to say? He felt he owed it to society to warn of the dangers of hard-core pornography and to explain how it had led him to murder so many innocent women and girls. With tears in his eyes, he described the monster that took possession of him when he had been drinking. His craze to kill was always inflamed by violent pornography. Quoted below is an edited transcript of the conversation that occurred just seventeen hours before Ted was led to the electric chair.
JCD: There is tremendous cynicism about you on the outside, I suppose, for good reason. I’m not sure there’s anything you could say that people would believe, yet you told me (and I have heard this through our mutual friend, John Tanner) that you have accepted the forgiveness of Jesus Christ and are a follower and believer in Him. Do you draw strength from that as you approach these final hours?
Ted: I do. I can’t say that being in the Valley of the Shadow of Death is something I’ve become all that accustomed to, and that I’m strong and nothing’s bothering me. It’s no fun. It gets kind of lonely, yet I have to remind myself that every one of us will go through this someday in one way or another.
JCD: It’s appointed unto man.
Ted: Countless millions who have walked this earth before us have gone through this, so this is just an experience we all share.
Ted Bundy was executed at 7:15 am the day after this conversation was recorded.
THE PSYCHOPATH - The Mask of Sanity
Special Research Project of the Quantum Future School
http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm
If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people’s hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. […]
Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the population….
The prevalence rate for anorexic eating disorders is estimated a 3.43 percent, deemed to be nearly epidemic, and yet this figure is a fraction lower than the rate for antisocial personality. The high-profile disorders classed as schizophrenia occur in only about 1 percent of [the population] - a mere quarter of the rate of antisocial personality - and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that the rate of colon cancer in the United States, considered “alarmingly high,” is about 40 per 100,000 - one hundred times lower than the rate of antisocial personality.
The high incidence of sociopathy in human society has a profound effect on the rest of us who must live on this planet, too, even those of us who have not been clinically traumatized. The individuals who constitute this 4 percent drain our relationships, our bank accounts, our accomplishments, our self-esteem, our very peace on earth.
Yet surprisingly, many people know nothing about this disorder, or if they do, they think only in terms of violent psychopathy - murderers, serial killers, mass murderers - people who have conspicuously broken the law many times over, and who, if caught, will be imprisoned, maybe even put to death by our legal system.
We are not commonly aware of, nor do we usually identify, the larger number of nonviolent sociopaths among us, people who often are not blatant lawbreakers, and against whom our formal legal system provides little defense.
Most of us would not imagine any correspondence between conceiving an ethnic genocide and, say, guiltlessly lying to one’s boss about a coworker. But the psychological correspondence is not only there; it is chilling. Simple and profound, the link is the absence of the inner mechanism that beats up on us, emotionally speaking, when we make a choice we view as immoral, unethical, neglectful, or selfish.
Most of us feel mildly guilty if we eat the last piece of cake in the kitchen, let alone what we would feel if we intentionally and methodically set about to hurt another person.
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 6:02 am
The point I am attempting to present in contrast is which one is the real PSYCHOPATH
A.) James Dobson
B.) Ted Bundy
C.) Fundamental Christianity
D.) All of above
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 6:11 am
Virginia, it looks like you and I will have to stick together.
Comment by Lorelei — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 7:31 am
Everyone needs to see this. This is Jeremiah Wright’s Sermon IN CONTEXT. It is amazing what you can do when you are taking comments out of context or “paraphrasing.”
http://baldeagle08.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/cnn-msnbc-cbs-abc-fox-news-lied-about-pastor-jeremiah-wright-see-911-sermon-in-context/
Comment by Raul — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 8:45 am
i first read her stuff before the war jumped off…..if ya wanna get behind a woman, this ones honest, credible, real, brave, competant, and made it on her own talent & ability. unlike Bill’s wife/hanger-on, enabler, remora…..
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/ArticleID/9619
While Kathleen out in the East County hits the mark for humanities Long Run, (load yer own, K? Maybe we can compare notes)
we still have the luxury of playing these games. One thing I WONT do is pretend symbolism equals action…..and my vote, if the ghastly Clintons dont poison the well for Obama, is just that, symbolism. Id like to see what he does with the office, the bar is now so very low it wont take much to look damned good, even BE damned good. .Another wisewoman/extremeist once said: “When I say “protest” I am saying I no longer support this or that thing. “Resistance” is when I see to it that which I no longer support no longer occurs”- Ulrike Meinhoff.
Well, Im retired from resistance. If I die outside of prison walls Ill consider myself fortunate, the way this country is going.
But more of the same, with female face? nah.
Comment by mutt — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 11:05 am
But more of the same, with female face? nah.
Mutt, go ahead and use your liberty to exagerate. To pretend that Clinton and McCain will be the same or that there was no difference between the last Clinton’s years and the Bush years is just willful blindness in my opinion.
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 1:12 pm
BTW I can’t stand this software. How expensive is haloscan? If nothing else the error messages should be cleaned up of their rudeness. It is bad enough when you lose a post because of forgetting to add up the numbers. To have the insulting error message adding to the annoyance is unnecessary.
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 1:13 pm
Sorry, it seems you didn’t pass math!!
Sorry but your interface sucks!
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 1:15 pm
Virginia, theres a lot to the point of the 3 candidates, the one who will least likely extract our troops from this criminal enterprize is HRC- she wont want to appear “weak”, her foriegn policy “expertise” - fabulated at every turn- comes from her husband, Bill “the troops will be home by xmas” Clinton. Creator of Camp Bondsteel, the largest US military base outside of the US, in Kosovo. Then theres the open spigot og Blackhawk helicoptes & cluster bombs for Israel, and no more effort to halt the “settlements” than Bush & the neonuts. I mean, since she has so much experience and all. hangin around Bill.
Health “care”- not unless insurance companies profit off every bandaid. Central America/Cuba? Hmmmmmm- I suggest you look at the record there. (Since her claim to expertise revolves totally around her husband) Former Soviet Union? Bill left a clear trail of funding murderous despots. “Secret” wars? Again, look at thier history turning Arkandas into a contra arms dump. And she assume ALL the powers Cheney accrued for the Executive & relinquish none.
What, exactly, is the difference? Plumbing? Rhetoric?? cosmetics?
She simply has no moral compass, no sense of right, wrong, fiasco, or horror.
Ambition aone does not qualify one for the job. As much as I dislike Nita Lowery’s politics, she at least actually lived & worked, in the trenches, in NYC. She was more than qualified to run for that Snate seat, but Dim apparatchiks all across the country, for reasons I cant fathom, kicked Nita to the curb to install this wandering powermonger…….it might well be why the Dims arent riding vast groundswell of popularity…..no, it cant be THEIR actions, it must be a vast conspiracy……..
Lets keep it friendly, if possible.
McC is more likely to act on Iraq & Afghanistan. I say “more likely”, thats all. Obama is more likely still, & push
Comment by mutt — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 2:16 pm
Is anyone else having trouble streaming the audio? I’ve been Stacyless for two days now. I was testing this a.m. and it worked then…
Suspicious?
Comment by Lorelei — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
I just tried to listen and it doesn’t work. I have been away and today is the first time I’ve tried to listen. Does anyone know what is wrong? Quick! I need my tinfoil hat!
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
He’s finally on, but the stream isn’t working for me, so I’m listening through the static.
Comment by Kathleen — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 3:16 pm
However, this website’s clock is an hour slow. It’s 4:17.
Comment by Kathleen — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
Kathleen, when you say he is “finally on” do you mean on the radio? The internet streaming is not working. I wonder what could be wrong?
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 3:59 pm
Baseball. The horror……..
Comment by mutt — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
So does this mean that Spikes show will get bumped all season long when there is a game? What a pitty. All the hatefilled Christian bashing and fear mongering that we will miss. What will I do………
Comment by fishfinger — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 6:09 pm
Poor poor pitiful FF
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 9:33 pm
Got Stacy just fine after the game. That should have riled you up Little Fishy. I can’t even believe you are worried about Christians…since you’re barely one. You wanted to know who I am? I’m a person that can’t even get County Medical. I’m living with an illness that might kill me. So why don’t you be a GOOD Christian and pay my hospital bills that I can never pay. You’re rich remember? Prove it! It’s almost Easter. Go Obama and Hopefully the Chargers lol
Comment by Julie in San Diego — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 10:37 pm
OH MY GOD, HERE WE GO AGAIN STACY, GET RID OF THIS F***ING FREAK—PLEASE!
Comment by knifemaster — Saturday, March 22, 2008 @ 8:17 am
More win/win…….I rarely bother with dipfish, but I gather he fancies himself a “christian”…..well, we perhaps can help him along in his ugly fantasy world thusly:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=540453&in_page_id=1811
we can do this out at Kathleens place, and make use of the attending structure to set a good AM antennae, allowing her to get Stacy’s show on the radio.
I have some basic carpentry skills……antennae designs are on the web….we can have a BBQ! jolly fun for all……
Comment by mutt — Sunday, March 23, 2008 @ 11:06 am
and a Beaster Treat, for all you condemned to The Lake of Fire (friends tell me the mojitos at the swim up lakeside bar are to DIE for…..)
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/03/expelled.php
Comment by mutt — Sunday, March 23, 2008 @ 11:13 am
Four thousand.
Comment by Flying Junior — Sunday, March 23, 2008 @ 10:44 pm
I’m all for it Mutt. We night not even need a real antenna. We can link together our tin foil hats and hold hands. Could be a shocker of a good signal. I’ll bring the ribs and the Bud. You all can deal with the hard stuff.
Comment by Julie in San Diego — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 1:36 am
In North Carolina we fry fishfinger in deep bacon grease!
GO HEELS!
rw
Comment by Roger — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 5:32 am
Now, I would like to attend a barbecue where we crucify fishf**k - am I invited? Since Easter was yesterday, do we have to wait until next year? Or did ya get it all done already?
Comment by Lorelei — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 7:41 am
Four thousand.
Yes, Flying Junior. I read about that on page 15 of the Sunday Union Tribune.
Comment by Virginia M — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 9:22 am
Hey Stacy! Let’s talk about McCain’s problems instead.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/23/MN31VNBJV.DTL
Comment by Virginia M — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 9:24 am
Interesting how that was on page 15. What is wrong with our only newspaper? Let’s try a boycott, stop shopping with their advertisers and force them out of business. Then maybe the L.A. Times will come back and give us real San Diego coverage.
Comment by Lorelei — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 10:04 am
By all means…….and why the hell did the Dems want him in the Party? i mean, if he fits in your tent, what, actually, do you stand for? Always thought that was pretty funny…..
grim Duty summons me to the park tonight. Perhaps some of us will meet. Wear your Official Unka Stacey Foil Lined Propeller Beanies, so we can spot each other in the (i hope) crowd…..but keep a low profile!
Ive been to ten (i think) local military funerals on motorcycle escort. Sometimes its just us, and a few family members, sometimes many hundreds turn out. Its never easy.its appreciated tho- complete strangers, showing up & acknowledging the fact these people suffered a wound that often never heals.
Weve been doin this- inflicting damage on people & countries- one place or another, one way or another , for quite a while.
I did this candlelight vigil thing too many times in ….almost 40 years, since post volunteer & AU-H2O-64 days
Better company, tonite, than Im likely to find at the mall…….
Comment by mutt — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 10:15 am
Let us bow our heads and say a fond farewell to mr. Finger, I here he has self imploded or mabe exploded and there’s a nasty subsance hanging from surrounding trees and crosses. Did you all catch Bill Moyer’s Journal Friday, if not you can link on it at crooksandliars.com. I still have the sniffels from the viewing (powerfull Stuff). Then we compound this Easter day with the knowledge we have unmercifully sacrificed 4000 of our young men. While reading the NYT political cartoons, came on the best, I urge you to pull that one up also. It only seems yesterday when I got off my as and participated in a protest march in front of Camp Pendelton as the shrub was arriving to get his photo opp. I remember this was one of the first sponcered by VFP and we were able to have all the dead on 3 bed sheets, try that now. Being interviewed by FBI posing as news people was real obvious.I remember the young grunts driving by and giving the finger and surprisingly, a few honks. Hell, I think this was three years ago—-Anything Changed?
Comment by knifemaster — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 1:20 pm
Mutt wrote:
(i didnt think gore should be rewarded for sitting silently by that clinton creep, and the butchery we helped along in Central Europe. Plus.)
WHAAATT? Butchery? Exactly what are you smoking, mutt?
I hate to break this to you, but that “butchery in Central Europe” you refer to started a year or so before Clinton got into office.
And for right-wingers like yourself to whine about that is the height of hypocrisy (but so not surprising, given the other bile you spew)
Tell me: Does the butchery that Bush, Cheney and their enablers in government and the press, created in Iraq bother you much?
No, didn’t think so.
Do us a favor: Think (if that’s possible for you), or research your history a little better, before you post. You’re only make a bigger fool of yourself.
Comment by Vriendje — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
“butchery in Central Europe” you refer to started a year or so before Clinton got into office.
That part is true but I don’t think Mutt is a right winger. He is against war including air war where the butchery is impersonal.
Comment by Virginia M — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 3:13 pm
You know mutt, I was going to let it slide because I figured you did your duty to our country, but you voted for Bush? What could Al Gore have done to not condone Clinton’s “butchery in Central Europe?” And, as I recall, Vriendje is correct…
Comment by Lorelei — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
Massive air & artillery strikes on cities, towns, and villages equals butchery where I come from. If its just the cost of doing business where YOU come from…..well, I dont come from where you come from. And NEVER the twain shall meet.
you probably think Maddy Albright is quite the statesman……..
I dont object to the US assisting people under savage attack. However, if you, uh, do a little research, you’ll find things went off the rails in Kosovo after we started bombing, we had airstrikes called on locations at the behest of paid informants-great way to settle scores, that- and US troops were, once again, fighting to install a major traffiking mafia in power. Do YOU hav any idea at all what Kosovo is actually like? I dont. Id say its no fountain of liberty, tho. this use of indiscriminate airpower samesame Afghanistan, and Viet Nam, for that matter, and we used massive aerial assaults against urban centers in former Yugoslavia. You start posturing about “surgical strikes” and you just further betray your ignorance, go ahead, please be my guest. We dropped about every bridge that spans the Danube, and, like when Clinton bombed the SOLE production facility for antibiotics in Africa (sneeringly dismissed as the “aspirin factory” by various chickenhawks AND Clinton apologists) we just……walked away.
Right wing. What a maroon…….the Right wants an Empire ruled by men. I want a consitutional Republic, ruled by law. Which means im niether Left, or Right. Too bad, too.
Comment by mutt — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
Hey, Mutt: Perhaps my post against yours was a touch too harsh, but I’m sorry, I can smell the hypocrisy in your argument a mile away. Also, I’ll take Albright any day over the coddling, inept C. Rice.
Once again, the Balkan Civil War started BEFORE Clinton got into office. Before, before, before. Yes, it was a tragedy, and yes, we didn’t act fast enough. Kosovo is a whole other subject. (So you were opposed to that, but apparently not the terror Milosevich inflicted on that region? Quite frankly, I really have no idea what the hell your point is.)
Where is your outrage over Bush’s dithering in Sudan? And when you condemn what this corrupt administration has done in Iraq, I might have some respect for what you say.
And WHERE did I mention surgical strikes in my post? One more thing sir: I’m an American just like you, thank you very much. Just because I don’t share your myopic views doesn’t make me a maroon.
(To Virginia: No offense, but this mutt sounds like a right-winger to me. To Lorelei: Thanks for backing me up. Appreicate both you and Virginia here on this site)
Comment by Vriendje — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 3:58 pm
Thanks Mutt for the quick response, I was wondering where Virendje was headed with his diatribe. Some real facts seem to get in the way of reasonable thought. People have to stop joining clubs without checking the club’s adjenda.
Comment by knifemaster — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
AH– HEM which morron are you refering?
Comment by knifemaster — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 5:14 pm
You reveal yorself. a partisan hack……Albright oversaw the slow destruction of Iraqi civil society by Clintons…..well, he certainly didnt embargo military equipment, or luxury goods, or “police” equipment, so we cant call it an embargo against the Iraqi State….but Maddy was fine with the embargo of medicine, food, ag equipment, water purification equipment, electrical generating equipment…..all the things that added up to thousands of Iraqi civilians dying a month, the bulk under 5. Maddy said, on several occaisions, it was “worth it”- no doubt to you, also. Like Ive said before: the twain wont meet. You are a thug with a Dem button, nothing more.
Hmmm. Now Im supposed to jump thru some nitwit hoop you hold up- Im to show outrage about Bush/Sudan, at your command. Keep holdin the hoop, kid. As things stand now, theres a AfUnion force there with zero comm, transport, or UN mandate to do much of anything. It would be fine by me to use US airlift & such logistical support, but for the fact theres none to spare. all used up/tied up/trashed up.
Maybe Germany can step in, or Japan, or China. But theres no oil, so no one will step in. Please be my guest. Hed right on out. Talk is EVER so cheap.
then there is this howler:”And when you condemn what this corrupt administration has done in Iraq, I might have some respect for what you say.”
I dont give a flyin fuck for your respect. the above sentence speaks volumes to anyone who has followed my posts here or caught my deathless prose on Stacy’s show.
that nitwit Gore? My thoughts on him were more than adequately explained in other threads.
So, what- this is junior dipfish? We got new one?
And needless to say, the marroon aint Knife.
Jeez, nitwits with keyboards………and progs wonder why they are irrelevant……
Oh, yeah…..the recent incarnation of the Balkan War started in 1918. So what? christ, must be a kollidge kid…..
Comment by mutt — Monday, March 24, 2008 @ 8:28 pm
Must we resort to name calling? I thought that was over now and that we could have intelligent conversations. It must be lonely for you mutt and knifemaster, being the only ones who know anything. I still agree with V.
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 7:37 am
Lorelei, I will draw your attention to this clowns first post directed at me. Im under zero obligation to take that sort of uninformed, snotty crap lying down. Uninformed, well, youve read my posts up to now. Snotty? That gets a different response.
I now dump this “v” nitwit in my dipfish box, because, like dipfish, I dont give a damn what he spouts. he’s sorta said it all……
Passing strange when not piddling on the floor lke a puppy when HRC gets mentioned qualifies one as a “right winger”, but there you go.
Next subject, Stacy!!!
Comment by mutt — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 8:21 am
Yes he was snotty. I misread what he wrote and thought he apologized. Vriendje don’t be snotty anymore! We can all make our points in a civil manner. I know I’m capable of being as ghetto as anyone, but let’s not do that anymore. (however, we should reserve our right to get as ghetto as we want when its called for - I realize that’s arbitrary…)
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 8:34 am
The war has more victims besides the 4000 dead soldiers.
Here is a wounded warriors story. Let the war get personal.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060327/richards
We don’t even count these guys…..
Comment by nobody special — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 8:36 am
mutt’s posts are 90% Dem bashing, which is why someone coming in would naturally think he’s just another Righty creep.
Of course, on Stacy Taylor’s site, a lot of us are “Libruls”, so independents and iconoclasts like Stacy and mutt are going to gravitate to lots of Dem bashing in response.
Put independents on a site like the one Lyin’ Larson (the morning 1700 guy) has and I’d expect to see 90% Repug bashing.
Anyway, Gore is not a nitwit. He’s one of the good guys, smart as hell, and chock full of integrity. The fact that America (or was it the Supreme Court) put Bush in power in 2000 instead of Gore shall be a source of eternal shame for us all. It certainly is a source of extreme frustration for me.
Comment by goodguy — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 9:27 am
It’s personal for me despite the fact that only one acquaintance has been killed in Iraq. I remember when the Iraq invasion first started. My friend’s brother-in-law was in a helicopter that crashed. He was one of the first 5 or 6 marines killed and he’s not counted in the 4000 because they weren’t in combat when the crash happened. Meanwhile, I was working in a public agency where at least half of the employees were fundy christians and they were so happy we were “getting the terrorists.” It was so f**king bizarre that they were so ignorant. I received an e-mail from a nice church-going gal with a picture of George looking compassionately at a little girl whose father had died in the twin towers. It included a message about the terrorists in Iraq and what a great guy George Bush is. None of the fundy freaks could comprehend the real reasons we were in Iraq as opposed to Afghanistan. One person I talked to didn’t know that they were actually two different countries. I suspect that’s still the case for many of them. Can you imagine the frustration?
Anyhow, every Sunday a group of us are out on the street corner protesting the war, the Bush admin., torture, etc. If you would like to join us, we meet from noon to 1 p.m. on the corner in front of Trader Joes in La Mesa. We get all walks of life and everyone’s welcome. There are other protests around town, but I’m not sure where they meet. I won’t be able to go this weekend, but you all should go. It’s fun counting the number of middle fingers we get!
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 9:50 am
Standing on the corner counting fingers isn’t going to help anyone.
How about showing up at the naval hospital and reading to some of the kids who can’t see anymore, or helping a guy whose fingers (or arms) were blown off write a letter home. Maybe just bring flowers and a smile to some, whose families can’t afford to come visit him while he recuperates.
Mutt makes a difference, so can you.
The cost of war is hundreds of thousands of victims.
….and Cheney says “So?”
Comment by nobody special — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 10:09 am
I disagree. Standing on the corner makes people think and in turn sways popular opinion and hopefully down the line, will stop the war. But you have excellent ideas. I’ve been so focused on stopping the war, letter writing and protesting that I haven’t thought about making a difference that way. Is there an organization who coordinates meetings or do you just drop in?
Thank you nobody special, and too bad Cheney’s pacemaker won’t let him die.
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 10:35 am
still baffeled at how pointing out serious crimes against humanity is “bashing” if said crimes are committed by Dems, but ill let it pass. And sitting alongside someone directly responsible for such crimes, dutifully proclaiming the perps greatness, qualifies for, at the very best, “nitwit” in my book……but lets let it drop for now. Or not. Personally, I see nothing in Gores record to impress. Thats just me, perhaps my standards are too high. I dont think Ill lower them, however to suit party apparatchiks here.
and, yes: noon, Trader Joes. Will you be wearing fishnets?? i look like Clark Gable…….i guess I already got peacenik cooties, so what the hell.
i dare not enter a VA hospital, less whatever peaceful sentiments I have left go up in smoke altogether. Been there………damn tough row to hoe, but I highly recommend it.
I have very modest hopes Senator Obama may, perhaps, possibly, do good in the office. Lets test the waters: is this Dim, er, Dem bashing? Or is only the gushing sort of crap gore used to heap on the excreble Bill good enough to pass muster?
jesus.
Comment by mutt — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 11:24 am
Sorry mutt, I’ll be wearing my fishnets in San Jose at the democratic convention this weekend as a delegate. This is another way I try to fight back against the hell the Bushies hath wrought. I look forward to meeting you the following weekend.
You have every right to your opinions and I don’t take the dem bashing personally (i.e. “dims”). I try to take a serious look at what you say and I talk to other people and read books if I’m unschooled in certain areas. But, I have a feeling that there are certain things we’re never going to agree on.
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 11:37 am
heck, Im sure theres things we’ll never agree on. why, Im sure there isnt a person on the planet who sees things my way on every subject, but life isnt a game of Family Fued where (i think) the point of the exercise was to give the answers given by the most number of random chosen individuals. Never saw that as a strong point for anyone. the fact that any criticism of the, uh, Dems, given thier ugly record- I say again, this isnt the Dem party of Truman, much less Will Rodgers- elicits such a cockamamie response…..well, what do you all expect?
The road to Hell & all that. AndI wont even accord the Dems “good intentions” (in honor of you being a Official Delegate, I wont use “dims” anymore….well, not here) in a lot of the horror they have perpetrated on the county & the planet.
But, certainly, we have a very deep divide over this character- youll note the article comes from the far Right fringe hate sheet, the Village Voice http://blogs.villagevoice.com/bushbeat/archives/2008/03/hillary_ran_fro.php
Keep that in mind. The ONLY way the Di, uh Dems can loose is by puttin up HRC. You know Im right.
Comment by mutt — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 12:19 pm
I volunteer through the YMCA for Navy Medical Center SD. here is a website with contact info.
http://www.asymcasd.org/support.html
To volunteer at the Naval Hospital, Camp Pendelton, you must go through the Red Cross.
http://www.cpen.med.navy.mil/nhcp.cfm?xid=wap&f=arc&p=x18E76C57
and the link to voluntter @ the VA hospital
http://www.sandiego.va.gov/giving/volunteergiving.asp
Comment by nobody special — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 12:23 pm
Thanks nobody special.
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 12:53 pm
thanks, nobody special……
Comment by mutt — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 1:02 pm
i thought letting the incoherent nitwit ON was a liberal thing to do…..much less let him stick around so long…what, ya miss your littermate? awwwwwwww…i bet you got ALL the chops to replace him.
Comment by mutt — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
Holy crap, I thought there was going to be some sort of time laps between NWs but alas, there he is, The almighty Bruce, savior of the ill informed. Missing Mr. Fish in such a short time? Hey, all you have to do is dangle your fishing pole over a cess pool and Whoo-Laa another like minded fool is on your hook. Amazing how facts keep getting in the way of these people’s logic. Exchanging topics on experiences,Ideas,solutions and just plain common sense is my intent and to enjoy this site. When you accuse people of name calling, it’s probably their means to use adjectives suited for things they see that are totally wrong.
Comment by knifemaster — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 5:44 pm
Mutt and Knife, I have more than a strong suspicion that Bruce is Fish, only he’s using his spell checker.
Comment by Lorelei — Tuesday, March 25, 2008 @ 7:51 pm
Comment by bottom dweller — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 7:02 am
Oh yes he is. And I’m not hiding behind a screen name. Lorelei is my real name, I usually go by Lori but there was already a Lori from Mission Beach and I didn’t want people to mix us up. However, you’re hiding behind a screen name. Or is bottom dweller your real name? It suits you.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 7:34 am
Somebody got his finger up his bottom…..
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 8:39 am
And the beat goes on, Responding to whomever this joker is calling himself today is futile. I reguard this idiot as a form of what our society has risen or sunk to, WHATEVER!!!! His trying to be clever and witty is just not going to succeed, he’s just a boil on the ass of humanity.
Comment by knifemaster — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 10:09 am
Global warming is my only friend
By: Jesse eastcounty
Steal more oil and pump it into our community sphere
Hurry I can still breathe Hurry I can still see
A Mobil cause as the gas pump passes 4000 lost souls
Millions more unaccounted for
Exxon states the facts are not in on the hydro carbon ruse
Steal kill and pump more please
This bull shit does not add up to me
The haves and the have mores say we must bleed
BP cries it is a security need
As the extinction of the lower level of our food chains increase
Global warm is a myth from sea to dying sea
Our vaults can hold more souls you sea
Royal Dutch Shell bloody hands are guilty in this conspiracy
Drill that pipe through the world’s heart and soul
The planet is dying that’s just fine as long as we have fatten bottom line
An out dated source of energy is our greed
Global warming is my only friend
It will meet out the justice that the planet needs
Regardless of you station in life
The have mores will die in style
Pain will be slow as your loved ones go
Global warming is my only friend
Blind justice a slow miserable death
The warnings have been in the cowards will pay
Lunacy polices that many have known
The cost to be paid will be no surprise
Filler up will be paid as a full coffin gauge
Global warming is my only friend
Comment by JesseEast county — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 12:12 pm
i know theres a lot of civilians in the crowd, and decent, understandable military analysis- with a sense of humor! is damned hard to find.
I find it here. You serious sorts out there might find it a useful reference….
http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Hey Stacy! Blog it!
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
Anyway, Gore is not a nitwit. He’s one of the good guys, smart as hell, and chock full of integrity
I agree. I wish he were running. Hey Al! We need a white guy! (kidding)
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 2:52 pm
“Enough!” rallies (You can read the North County Times article about these community rallies here.)
• Del Mar: Sundays, 1:00 - 2:00 pm at the corner of Del Mar Heights and El Camino Real.
• Encinitas: Sundays, noon - 1:00 pm at the the corner of Encinitas Blvd. and Hwy 101.
• Hillcrest: Fridays, 5:00 - 6:30 pm at the corner of 6th and University.
• La Jolla: Saturdays, noon - 1:00 pm on Nobel Drive, just west of I-5, between the two shopping centersr.
• La Mesa: Sundays, noon - 1:00 pm at the corner of Murray Dr. and Grossmont Center Dr. next to Trader Joes.
• Poway: Sundays from noon - 1:00 pm at Pomerado Road and Twin Peaks Road.
• Ramona: Sundays from noon to 1:00 pm at the corner of 10th and Main.
• Vista: Sundays from noon - 1:00 pm at Vista Village Drive and Santa Fe (the big dirt lot).
Comment by allaboutsolutions — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
Unbelievable. my posts are eliminated but the posts disagreeing with me and calling me names are still there. What a great group. I am sure this will be taken off as soon as that phony, Stacy, sees it. he used to be a conservative, even filling in for Dennis Prager. When a liberal gig opens up and he is unemployed, he becomes the resident liberal mouthpiece. nice standards by your hero. Just a whore for the money, no matter where it comes from.
Comment by Bruce — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 4:33 pm
Hey Bruce, what other forums do you post to? Just curious. One of your cohorts fishfinger never did have the guts to say.
You’re right about one thing - this is a great group. The only problem we have is when we get right-wing creeps posting their typical idiocy.
If you want to, you can find really rotten groups out there - just go to any Rush-Bimbo-Wannabe site and you’ll be inundated with righty garbage.
Comment by goodguy — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 7:54 am
I read a lot but usually only post where there is a complete lack of understanding of the basic issues. When common sense is lacking, I might post. I have been curious about Stacy since I heard he was back on the air as a liberal. I used to listen to him a lot when he was a conservative/independent and I liked his show. This present show is just a lot of hate which accomplishes nothing. Even though most of the right wing shows are one sided, there is not as much hate as there is on this show.
Comment by Bruce — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 8:03 am
“This present show is just a lot of hate which accomplishes nothing. Even though most of the right wing shows are one sided, there is not as much hate as there is on this show.”
Really? And your definition of “hate” is what, exactly? you must be a VERY sensitive sort…..and must avoid lunatic foamers such as chickenhawk shaum like the plague…..I suppose if you overheard any NUMBER of wingnut shows you’d faint dead away, as with the vapours……
Try some Col. Velvets Patented Nerve Tonic and man up…….
“hate”. right.
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 12:15 pm
Moving on to serious matters….the following:
“The eyes tell all.
The Stare. History’s dirty little secret. The victor’s too-deep-even-for-tweezers thorn. The bat signal of the voiceless. The American G.I. received the same stare forty years ago in rice paddies while hunting down Charlie. Billy Yank felt it on his back while he Marched to the Sea with Sherman, saving our nation from itself. Redcoat Sally came to understand it in a Boston town square, while a brave new world teetered on Revolution. Hell, Jesus’ family – if not the Master Messiah himself – unleashed it at more than a few Roman Legionnaires, I’m sure. It’s the same look any foreign power – or more accurately, the flexed bicep of said foreign power, the soldier – gets when a majority of the local populace feels that they’ve overstayed their welcome, if such a welcome ever existed in the first place.”
….is from a war blog I have linked on the VVAW website, under “Dispatches”….the most recent entry, “Cold Winter”.
now, from the Sunni Triangle….click on ‘mutt” if you want to read it…..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 12:40 pm
Hey Man, Simple–Don’t listen—- Don’t post– Save us all the agravation!
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 12:41 pm
Looks like McDummy is proposing a righty crack-pot plan for something called the “League of Democracies”.
Too bad for him that a crony of his let the cat out of the bag — The idea is really all about killing the UN.
See http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/27/krauthammer-mccain-un/
McCain is a nitwit if he believes that thinking Americans are going to be fooled by this transparent ploy.
Unfortunately America is full of nitwits like him who will be fooled, and of righty imbeciles who will be all for it.
mutt - thanks for the “Stare” post — “…Billy Yank felt it on his back while he Marched to the Sea with Sherman…” He also felt it during reconstruction, which reminds me in a lot of ways of what our troops are dealing right now in Iraq…
Comment by goodguy — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
yeah…..but didnt they actually BUILD things during Reconstruction? and speak the lingo ? (more or less) ….
Jeez, more grownups chasin a ball around when Stacy is on a friggin streak…well, imagine the howls if people missed the excreble Miller groveling to that loon North.
Is he still wanted for major drug traffiking & multiple counts of homicide in Costa Rica? Or were the indictment eventually bought off? Then theres the Stark….another bloodletting North played a role in, if indirectly. many of you were probably too young to remember the Stark. It was during the Iraq-Iran War, when we were arming both sides. Saddam, on our payroll & in our hearts for years by then, was unaware to the double game. Enter North, who delivers still unknown numbers of Hawk missile batteries to Israel- for free- to the Israelis- y’all paid for them- & THEY in turn give thier older Hawk batteries to Iran, which puts them on Kharg Island, & starts taking a toll on Iraqi jets shooing up Iranian tankers around there. Now, depending on which story you but (i buy #2, havin read a lot about it, 20 odd yrs ago) the Iraqi pilots started hunting much further afield as the North /Reagan supplied Hawks made that end of the Gulf too hot for them, came upon the destroyer Stark, & put several missiles into it at night, claiming they didnt recognize it. (Hilarious digression- when word the Iraqis did serious damage to a US warship, the wingnuts demanded revenge. It took a while for the Reagan Wingnut Admin to explain the Iraqis & Saddam was our true blue “friend” and it was an “accident”…and 80 odd US Sailors ended up dead (it seems Alcoa wasnt getting a big enough slice of “Defense” welfare & insisted on getting some contracts or no more campaign “contributions” so the Navy outfitted some destroyers with aluminum armor & superstructure, the missiles ignited fires, the aluminum acted like aluminum- think how quick a Al. skillet transmits heat- and a LOT of guys died, either burned or from the toxic gasses burning off the paint far from the actual fires. But I digress.)
Story #2 is when the news broke the US was selling sat photos of Iraqi troop deployments- think WWI here- to Iran, and selling DOCTORED photos of Iranian troop deployments to Iraq, which had the Iraqi army attacking what they thought were weak points in the line when actually they were walking into a serious ambushes, resulting in mass WWI style casualties, well, Saddam blew his top, gave the order & the Stark caught the quid pro quo. It happened 2 wks after the double dealing was revealed in the European press; then, like now, the press US was an administration lapdog by and large.
Anyway, Schultz was questioned about this at a euro press conference, and made a joke about it. Sorta like the Chimp with “bring it on”. And them what calls the shots once again stays well out of the line of fire…..
Well, there you go, Stacy got yanked & Im editorialiing…..
Yes, hate to see wingnut radio loose any time over kids games…..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 3:37 pm
not China. Not Syria. Not Egypt. Not Iran. Not Cuba. Not Russia. But here.
Us. Without Cheney, or Rummy, or Reagan…….
http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/17041416.html?showAll=y&c=y
now ill shut up for a while……..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 5:15 pm
As a proud Agnostic I could really not care any less about preachers and the ridiculous things some of them say if I tried. That being said I am optimistic about Barack beating John McCain and here’s why. With Obama and Clinton in their deathmatch you would think a republican nominee left on his own would soar if nothing else by sheer virtue of looking “presidential”. Yet what has McCain done thus far? Mr. Foreign Policy and National Defense has made an ass of himself with his al qaeda Iran comment and stuttered and stumbled his way through an attempted economic speach which offered nothing. Can you imagine this angry old man going toe-to-toe with Obama in an actual debate? I for one can’t wait. Barack will eat him alive and talk circles around him, I almost feel sorry for McCain, does he know what he’s up against? We’ve seen this before. Clinton versus Dole anyone? Sure there will be those that vote for McCain, old vets who identify with him and those who want to bomb everyone who looks at us funny. I am still optimistic that this time maybe, just maybe, common sense will prevail…
Comment by Justin — Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 8:39 pm
And who could forget Kerry Vs Bush? Kerry made the Chimp look like a….well -chimp! And on to victory!
Then there was the courtroom tested , two fisted, gutsy, fire in the belly Edwards, Vs skulking criminal, proven liar, reckless incompetant warmonger Cheney, who could EVER forget that matchup!
Oops! more “dem bashing”. Scold away…….
Comment by mutt — Friday, March 28, 2008 @ 8:10 am
“Kathleen, when you say he is “finally on” do you mean on the radio? The internet streaming is not working. I wonder what could be wrong?
Comment by Virginia M — Friday, March 21, 2008 @ 3:59 pm”
Sorry, Virginia, I didn’t get back in time to respond. Yes, it was on the radio–the stream was down for a while (like all during Stacy’s show, IIRC.)
This reminds me, does anyone have the schedule for when Stacy will be preempted by sports? I caught a half hour of him yesterday, rushed off to the store and came back to sports! YUCK! Crap! It looks like he’s preempted again, today.
Nice poem, Jesse, thanks
“I am sure this will be taken off as soon as that phony, Stacy, sees it. he used to be a conservative, even filling in for Dennis Prager. Comment by Bruce — Wednesday, March 26, 2008 @ 4:33 pm”
Bruce, Stacy has always been mostly independent and he is NO phony, never has been. Only the braindead could possibly support what the neocons try to pass as conservative these days. Heil Hitler much? Today’s conservative means conserving the wealthy from taxes (while sticking it to the poor and middle class), conserving the corporations from regulation (while sticking it to small businesses who can’t afford a P.O. Box in the Cayman Islands), conserving wildlands for corporations to pillage (instead of allowing local communities to grow healthy food thereon or allowing wildlife to keep things in balance), conserving the lives of WASPS (while trying to blame all Amerika’s ills on brown people, or on people who don’t approve of priestly pedophiles–faux xians love pedophilia), and conserving power for themselves and their cretin-like offspring. Greedy sons of bitches, you’ll get yours when there is no food on earth. Do you rape your children for amusement/to teach them who’s boss? That Stacy even lets asshats like you and finger post is proof positive that he’s no phony, and not scared of your bullshit. How much is Rush paying you to try to disrupt this forum? Yeah, good way to make a “living”: attack the weak to make yourself feel good. Amerikans deserve to be starved to death, poisoned to death, if you are the average merkin lol. Look it up, fool.
And, do you understand critical thinking skills? I thought not. When new information comes in, brains make adjustments. It’s possible that once upon a time Stacy felt one way, and upon changing circumstances, he took on new ideas. Remember when a Republican was for conservation of resources? Of course you don’t. You’re a dumbass who A) never studied history and/or B) never paid attention. Even the most evil Nixon wanted environmental protection; compared to the Bush PNAC group, Nixon is a saint. Obviously, conservatives require only an asshole to deem one a saint. I’m no fan of so-called “Democrats” either; both parties are now totally run by the corporations–self-same corps who feed us downwer corpses, kill microbiologists who could give us medicines to combat diseases, and take guns to our heads during disasters instead of handing out water. Oh, and just wait until all the water is poisoned. Good luck! Knock on the king’s door for some of that and see how far you get!
Stacy, PLEASE, how can we get the “schedule”? I plan my schedule to be at the puter (can’t get the station on my walkman at all, and very static-ly on home radios) for your shows, and am devastated to miss you.
For other fans of progressive radio, Jeff Farias (http://www.1480kphx.com/DynamoPages.php?PID=22) is good when Stacy is preempted.
Have a good weekend, everyone. We could be bombing Iran by next weekend, and buhbye “internets” not to mention West Coast cities. Just sayin’, get some rice, beans, water, matches, candles–worst that happens? You have a little stash for the coming earthquake, cheaper than it will ever be again ….
Comment by Kathleen — Friday, March 28, 2008 @ 3:45 pm
On Thursday, March 27, 2008 @ 3:37 pm, mutt wrote yeah…..but didn’t they actually BUILD things during Reconstruction? and speak the lingo ? (more or less)…
You’re right, of course. History may not repeat itself — but it often rhymes.
I found this about some parallels between our post-”mission accomplished” period in Iraq, and reconstruction.
http://hnn.us/articles/27591.html
Comment by goodguy — Friday, March 28, 2008 @ 3:56 pm
Rats. Stacy is preempted by nitwitball. Again. So, Im pokin around lookin for some good Iraq sources & find this…..I think he’ll be regular read…..check his bona fides.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/03/iraqi-forces-vs.html
Comment by mutt — Friday, March 28, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
The surge is a success what a bunch of bull shit I hate this country more and more by the day.
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, March 28, 2008 @ 9:46 pm
a pretty good rant, what with a serious shortage of stacy’s last week……
http://killinghope.org/aer56.htm
it shows up in my mailbox monthly or so.
So, the multi billion $ police force is deserting to the Mahdi Army, the multi billion $ Iraqi Army is hanging way back, & American youth is taking sides in a civil war, on the side of the Iranian leaning Dawa party, the Badr Brigades, & the Supreme Islaamic Council. Not that I got a problem with Iranian “influence”, I cant help but note they share a long common border. We, however, share nothing…….
the supporters of this disaster keep getting more & more unhinged. It WOULD be fun to watch, but for the blood…..
c’mon, stacy- write sumpthin……
Comment by mutt — Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Hmmmmm…well, VVAW and IVAW is puttin on a BBQ/$hustle for IVAW. Ap 27, at VVAWs posh Poway HQ.
Winter Soldier fallout, & Iraq vets to answer questions. ping me fer details……Thx for the space to hyjack, Stacy……
Comment by mutt — Saturday, March 29, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
Lest you think I confine myself to Hillary “bashing”…..like I said, I see Obama as simply a bit more palatable, nothing more. And mostly because of this: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19621.htm
Stacy’s gonna start charging me rent…….
Comment by mutt — Sunday, March 30, 2008 @ 1:26 pm
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/todays_must_read_306.php
Fallout from the Cheney-Maliki Offensive. Comments are quality additions……
Comment by mutt — Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 7:58 am
It’s been awful that Stacy has been getting preempted. I pray he’ll be back today.
mutt — your links are great. Keep ‘em coming!
Comment by goodguy — Monday, March 31, 2008 @ 8:23 am