Frankly, I’m finally getting burned out on this nominating process, so this weeks primary results from North Carolina and Indiana seem a bit anticlimactic. Actually this whole thing could have turned out to be interesting and revealing but as the attentive observer knows instead quickly descended into a chaotic melange of insignificant trivialities like Preachergate, guns, “gas tax holidays”, and lapel pins. All of course media-driven, facilitated by Clinton’s desperate grasping and Obama’s apologetic ramblings. Still hearing virtually nothing about McCain’s rapid reincarnation as Curtis LeMay, the demented Vietnam era Strangelove. Also increasingly annoying is this notion that Obama can’t get angry because he’ll turn off “working class” dems. If so, why is he the presumptive nominee? What happens if he wins the White House than shows anger? Impeachment? Uppityness with Intent? And what’s with Clintonite lapdog Paul Begala running around referring to Obama supporters as “egg heads”? Jesus. To this bunch some gal with an associates degree in sports medicine is an intellectual elitist and the guy that prepared your taxes lives in an “ivory tower”. More divide-and-conquer tactics that will end up in McCain’s playbook. Thank god the economy is going well and that little operation in Iraq has turned out so successful, otherwise we wouldn’t have time to dwell on this important stuff.
Wednesday, May 7, 2008
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It looks like we are well on our way to nominating this generation’s George McGovern. In fact, McGovern has come out and joined those who say Hillary should quit.
With college students, black voters, and the most liberal wing of the Democratic Party supporting him it is no surprise that he is doing well.
No one seems to want to look at the realities of the general election. It looks like we will be facing four more years of Republican rule.
If only people would realize what a differnce it would make to have someone like Hillary making the appointments to the Federal Government over the next four years.
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 9:28 am
Drudge is crowing. He is so thrilled as are all hardcore Republicans.
www.drudgereport.com
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 9:45 am
The states that matter are Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan.
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 9:48 am
Oh come on Stacy! This stuff IS important. Don’t you know that EVERY presidential candidate should be held accountable for EVERYthing that ANYone they have EVER known has EVER said?!
Comment by Sammy — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
Ahhhh come on Virginia. You act like it’s the end of the world here. I know we Obamamaniacs have our tag lines, but that one about Michigan and Florida are no longer funny. We all know that One: Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan..and therefore forbidden by the DNC to campaign there….this is not news…..and in Florida, there were still at least 4 candidates in the race and Obama did not campaign there either to abide by the DNC rules. There should have been a separate Dem ballot later on. To say that Hill should automatically get all those votes and all the delegates is kinda silly. It’s plain sour grapes to say that ALL the Florida and Mich delegates belong to Hillary. You know this is true……either way, we would have voted for either one of them in November. I don’t buy the bullshit that all the Hillary supporters would rather vote rethuglican than vote for Obama and likewise.
Comment by BigJ — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 12:50 pm
Last night while flitting between Sundance channel (watching a great documentery ” Leaving the Suburbs” and the nail biting race on CNBC, I became aware that there might be some kind of definate results on those primaries but alas, just the same old shit. The media won’t let this circus die a natural death and HillBill have their heals dug in so deep their asses are leaving a furrow so deep it resembles the Grand Canyon. Dying campaigns like hers need to be put out of it’s missery quickly before the stench overcomes us all
Comment by knifemaster — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
Virginia - at this point, let’s just focus on our congressional candidates. We’ve done all we can do.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
If only people would realize what a differnce it would make to have someone like Hillary making the appointments to the Federal Government over the next four years.
a lot of us do, Virginia. Thats why we wish she’d go the hell away…….Dick Nixon in a pantsuit…….
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 2:25 pm
And, hell yeah, George McGovern is a HELL of a better candidate than this pair…people will stay away in DROVES if she’s the Dem (theyll go back to being Dims again) candidate.just one of many reasons she should be nowhere near power….. …from Sullivan-
Hillary Clinton’s Jeremiah Wright
07 May 2008 11:21 am
Sally Quinn nails it in a brutally candid post that lays bare the true politics of association in an alleged feminist’s career:
“You don’t choose your family but you choose what church you want to attend,” she said. But you do choose your husband.
She chose Bill Clinton. And she has not gotten up and moved.
Instead, she has enabled him over the last 32 years of their marriage, not only standing by him, denying what she knew about his womanizing and trying to delegitimize those who told the truth about it…
About one girlfriend, Connie Hamzy, she said,,”We have to destroy her story.”
About Gennifer Flowers she denied the story even after having a tape played on television about it. It was “attack the motives and the details,”said former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers to Sally Bedell Smith, author of “For Love of Politics” (ever wonder why so many former Clintonites are not supporting her or are actively supporting Obama? And what about Senate colleagues?). He was accused of sexually harassing Kathleen Willey. He was accused of rape by Juanita Broadrick, exposed himself to Paula Jones and finally had a sexual relationship with a 21 year old White House intern, a few years older than his own daughter…
Hillary did not get up and move.
Thanks, Sally.
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Comment by mutt — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
Although I like Hillary for several reasons, one of the reasons I don’t like her is because she stayed with Bill. As for her picks for the Supreme Court and other Federal Court seats and Appointees, she’s got it all over McCain. There are so many reasons for us all to support the Democratic nominee this time - and that means you too Mutt. Don’t stay away and sacrifice the courts, the environment, the economy, and the war.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 3:03 pm
I don’t buy the bullshit that all the Hillary supporters would rather vote rethuglican than vote for Obama and likewise.
Hi Big J,
The problem as I see it is not that Hillary supporters won’t support Obama. The problem is that the swing voters in the swing states will not vote for Obama. These groups (independents, catholics, seniors,) may support Hillary over McCain but are not likely to vote for Obama.
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 3:05 pm
If you like the McGovern candidacy than you will be very pleased with the Obama candidacy. None so blind as they that will not see.
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 3:08 pm
but that one about Michigan and Florida are no longer
In the general election the race is winner take all. That is much different than the primaries. No doubt that Obama would have received many votes in both of those states. The question is who would recieve the most votes in a general election.
Those of you who are holding out for someone to the left of Hillary are in denial about the state of the rest of the country.
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
at this point, let’s just focus on our congressional candidates.
OK, Lorelei. We have done what we can do. You are right to think about the congressional candidates. Are you going to the convention?
Comment by Virginia M — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
its not a case of staying away- its a case of not having someone I can in good conscience give a vote to- either hillery or McC will be a DISASTER.
Apparatchik spin does not analysis make. clinton will loose to McC, and in the slim chance she squeeks by him, will be a disaster. mcC will likely beat her, as vast numbers of repub people who otherwise would not vote, havin been burned by the bushies way too much to want another term like it, will turn out in droves to keep her from the WH.
She’s is, and has been, a disaster. i will not give her my vote. Some libertarian or goatherd party geek will get it.
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 4:30 pm
I would like to think all this talk of Obama supporters not voting for Hillary or Hillary supporters not voting for Obama in the general is just pissed off ranting. As an Obama supporter of course I want him to get the nomination but at the same time I intellectually respect Clinton and would happily vote for her over McCain. Let’s wise up people, the Democratic party has a long sordid history of kicking it’s own ass, we can’t afford that suicidal shit in 2008. I disagree with Hillary on a few thing but I disagree with McCain on almost everything, see? And to all those who Barack as inexperienced, I see your point. There was once another inexperienced pol from Illinois, seemingly naive yet one hell of a communicator. His name was Abraham Lincoln. Settle down and have faith. Will Obama make mistakes? Of course. Will Obama stay in Iraq for 100 years, confuse Sunni and Shiite and do nothing for the economy? Absolutely not. The choice is yours…
Comment by Justin — Wednesday, May 7, 2008 @ 6:49 pm
If you like the McGovern candidacy than you will be very pleased with the Obama candidacy. None so blind as they that will not see.
Spoken like a true apparatchik…..so to you the facts on the ground are identicle to 72? You actually think Nixon/McC sits in identical perches? And HRC actually has more credibility , honesty, and acumen than McGovern??? Really???
Astounding………..well, I think we’ve all seen often enough old triangulatin, power for powers sake Clintoids will say/do ANYTHING to eke out a bit more power. And right there is the very big hole in your boat you simply will not see: that power pursued for its own sake is what got us into this generation deep pit, & more of the same will NOT get us out.
By far & away, the person most likely to do the least damage- AND whip McC walking away- is Obama.
He’s black. Get over it. the county is not as small minded as you hang your hopes on, especially after this bunch…..
Comment by mutt — Thursday, May 8, 2008 @ 8:35 am
Hi Virginia: I’m not going to the convention because I withdrew my name from the race. Still worried about having a job at the end of June.
I’m tired of the presidential election. Let’s all talk about something interesting for a change. Someone else pick the topic, like maybe you Stacy.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, May 8, 2008 @ 10:51 am
For those of you who have set your sites on someone other than the front runner, “Obama” must not pick up your marbles and sulk off into the corner and suck your thumb till the whole thing is over, insted, gather your non knee jerk thoughts and try to change the way government has been working. In my humble aged thoughts lets elect a man who at least can put two thoughts and a coherent sentence together and still walk and chew gum at the same time. Lack of experience? Holy Shit, look at the fucking idiot we’ve had for eight years and some of you would consider a Regan like Mc-no-Brain to fill the job, again, I say WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, May 8, 2008 @ 12:29 pm
Mutt, I get it that you hate the Clintons. Let’s agree to disagree.
Knifemaster, Believe me I will support the nominee. It is just my opinion that Hillary will play better with the swing voters in the swing states that will determine the outcome of the general election. It is not simply because Obama is black. McGovern was white but that didn’t stop him from losing in a huge landslide to Nixon.
Lorelei, I’m sorry that you will miss the convention. That would have been a very exciting thing to do.
Take care all.
Comment by Virginia M — Thursday, May 8, 2008 @ 4:05 pm
The United States matriculates more college graduates per capita than most countries by far—but only a minority of our graduates transcend the image of “egghead” (id. est. pretentious intellectual or highbrow). Why is it given the number of colleges in this county—and the number of college students—do we have so many that exceed in being relatively stupid?
The insect class that specialize in writing political attacks (and we should never under-estimate insects) of late seem to take their methods from William “Safire’s Political Dictionary”. Fore it is there that we learn that “egghead” is what the mud-slinger refers to derogatively as an effete, bookish person with intellectual pretensions.
William Safire’s multi-paragraph chat (as his dictionary is chatty that by the way misses many important definitions of a more serious nature) goes on to discuss Stewart Alsop’s syndicated column on September of 1952 of Adlai Stevenson’s serious and rather difficult atomic energy speech.
Safire, supposedly the great, gives us some clues as to what this propaganda is likely insinuating and leading to, but I am not about to retype the long lexical entry (I assume those that care can easily find a copy of Safire’s dictionary for five bucks on the Internet). Nevertheless the hacks are merely copying the old anti-intellectualism of the past—nothing original.
Egg-head is something simplistic people can understand since the concept has no reference beyond the eccentricty of an external surface.
My feeling is that Barack ought better start an emotional attack of the stupidity of the right-wing fascism pretty soon or these weasel neocons will get their presumptuous way again. It is time to articulate what the hell America really stands for—liberty or a NeoCon-Artist form of supercilious and elitist fascism that laughs at a culture it presumes to be no more aware than the 1950s.
Comment by Eggs Benedict — Thursday, May 8, 2008 @ 7:05 pm
Not a case of hate Virginia, tho I understand you’d like to dismiss any crits of this nasty pair as such. Its dislike for cause, its NOT wanting a McNuts presidency, its a strong desire to get us out of the killing Iraqis business, & its the faintest glimmer of hope OBama wold actually prosecute rampant criminality, something the utterly compromised Clinton would never do.
Its the crackpot racism of her supporters, also, that is damning to her campaign. And theres this-
http://www.tnr.com/toc/story.html?id=64032fab-d36d-44b8-817c-6ba2f88f732d
Comment by mutt — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 7:53 am
Ginny;I’m thrilled that you would support the peoples choice, but do you really want a swing voter to decide your fate, any one who hasn’t made up their mind by now is ether naive or still attempting to escape from their strait jacket.
Comment by knifemaster — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 9:57 am
since the next big distraction/cassus belli against Iran will be the fighting in lebanon, refer to your unofficial military affairs advisors best source for actual analysis……
http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/
Ah, well, adios Virginia- if you cant peddle your papers, it might just be that its not because the supposed- to- buy customers cant read, but that your paper is wrapped around a very dead fish…..
Comment by mutt — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 10:15 am
Stacy:
Likely, Obama is not egghead enough to know this—despite his Ivy League degree and any law background—but the word “negotiate” (as with the enemy) is derived from Latin ‘ne-‘ “not” + ‘otium’ “leisure” of engaged in business and hard knuckle confrontation.
Negotiating is not simply talking to the enemy—like the pinheads would like us to believe. It is been more effective and sincere than the likes of John Bolton, the State Department, and the likes NeoCons, who do not want to maintain enemy status with much of the rest of the world. But what would American laywers and the media know nowdays–let alone the public?
Eric Egcentric
Comment by Eric Egcentric — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
US Evangelicals Call for Step Back From Politics
By Ed Stoddard
Reuters
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/050808D.shtml
Wednesday 07 May 2008
Dallas - A group of U.S. evangelical leaders called on Wednesday for a pullback from party politics so that followers would not become “useful idiots” exploited for partisan gain.
One in four U.S. adults count themselves as evangelical Protestants, giving them serious clout in a country where religion and politics often mix. Conservative evangelicals have become a key support base for the Republican Party.
But the movement has had growing pains and the statement issued on Wednesday, called an “Evangelical Manifesto,” is the latest sign of emerging fractures as some activists seek to broaden its agenda beyond hot-button social issues such as opposition to abortion and gay rights.
“Christians from both sides of the political spectrum, left as well as right, have made the mistake of politicizing faith,” the manifesto declares.
“That way faith loses its independence, the church becomes ‘the regime at prayer,’ Christians become ‘useful idiots’ for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology in its purest form,” it said.
Comment by Jesse east county — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 5:05 pm
I admire people that follow what is happenning in Iraq, but most of the time I don’t really care. I know that the continued violence is a direct result of U.S. interference. American military presence will never be a protection or stabilizing force to anything more than a pipeline.
Still, I really do care as much as anyone else. I think that the current situation is particularly deplorable. Al Sadr was our big folk hero just one month ago when his cease-fire gave traction to the story that the surge was working. Now, behind walls, his people are be aerially bombarded. He is the new imagined enemy. It has to be someone for God’s sake! We’ve already routed and destroyed Baghdad and Fallujah. It’s time to annihilate Sadr City. The truth is that there are no enemies of the U.S. inside Iraq with the exception of those we have created. The Baathist party is certainly no longer a viable political or military entity.
Oh yeah, and supposedly McCain is a dumbshit because he would check with Petraeus first about what way to proceed in Iraq. He’s no dumber or any more senile than any other Republican I know. Sunni, Shiite? Who cares? If they oppose the U.S., they are Al Qaeda or terrorists. That’s the first thing they teach you.
Comment by Flying Junior — Friday, May 9, 2008 @ 10:55 pm
time for Spike to restir the pot. Christ im tired of the sorry assed campaign, & sorrier assed Dems……I find this piece remarkable…..unsurprising, but remarkable…
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleID/10076
Comment by mutt — Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 8:38 am