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By: Lorelei

Lorelei — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:21:15 +0000

Churches also do a lot of damage. I certainly don’t want my tax money to be used to “help” people while recruiting new church memebers. I say leave the tax money to government social services and non-profits who can help.

I gotta tell you, I’m tired of going to the dentist and being told that my baby has a heartbeat just because his office is next door to an OB/GYN. I certainly don’t think tax money should be used to “save babies.”

By: mutt

mutt — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:17:16 +0000

this wierd, authoritarian “progressive” strain came about quite a while ago. USED to be the Left had a serious critique about the coercive nature of State power- the State was NOT your friend. Liberals way back when recognized State power is a dangerous thing to liberty- G Washington thought much on the subject and said at one point: “Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master”.
then, what I identify as middle & upper class mostly college kids, and suburban dems, came to the idea the problem wast the coersive nature of the State, only that they werent doing the coersion. “Give US the club, and we’ll show you PROGRESS”.
now it is manifested in laws large and small regulating every aspect of human existance, if possible, in nitwit, niggling ways. pretty soon, your kid will have to stay in that car seat til he’s 18.
one notes all such fussbudget HOA type lawmaking is often for “the children”, prompting one to suggest: Try parening. Its worked for 50, 000 years.
The lengthy screed above taking Stacy to task for not marching in lockstep with the latest decree on social responsibility is a classic of the type.
Simply take the liscenses of bad drivers. We will reduce auto traffic by 30%, in a flash.
But safe roads arent the “progressive” actual DESIRE, no, its the ability to enact endless laws, like a HOA dictating mailbox color.
As far as proggies being for the incremental criminalization of firearms owners, I can only point to my 30 plus years on the putative Left in this country. ive been involved in the issue for many years……its a constant theme.

By: goodguy

goodguy — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:05:07 +0000

It’s obvious churches do a ton of good in the real world.

But it’s also obvious that federal funding of religious activity is a direct violation of the separation of church and state.

It’s the same reason we don’t tax churches, after all…

By: Lorelei

Lorelei — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:13:06 +0000

The word progressive confuses me in the way its used now. It used to be that progressive was what we liberals decided to call ourselves as a backlash to the repugs turning the word liberal into a dirty word, i.e., “those nasty liberals…” We weren’t going to let them define us that way! But over the last few years it seems a group of crazy folks have co-opted the word “progressive.” I call them crazy because they seem to have no common sense and despite the facts as we know them, they think they know better. Have you been to a PDA meeting lately? They’re no different than the “Goose-stepping Republicans.”

Now, for example, Mutt says progressives want to criminalize firearms ownership. Who are these progressives? The one’s who’ve co-opted the word? Or do Liberals = Progressives?

Also, the progressives who so vhemently supported Obama must be very upset over his FISA law flip-flop and the continuation of Bush’s Faith-Based Initiatives. I wonder what he’ll do next.

By: knifemaster

knifemaster — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:10:06 +0000

Brief and to the point; I figured Obama was some sort of politico, but he’s is going too far, at least for me. FUNDING religeous groups with my tax paying money and giving them a tax free status is total bull shit. I thought we were going to leave the grandios pandering to the Repubs, seems not so. I fear Carlin’s piece on exploding heads is fast comming true At least there’s a great pounding between my ears and a trace of bulging eyes

By: Lorelei

Lorelei — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:13:26 +0000

Yes, it appears that our candiate for change is now going to continue Bush’s faith-based initiatives. Great…

By: knifemaster

knifemaster — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:27:38 +0000

Remembering the history of Gen. Patton WWII and Gen. McAurthur of the same time period, I’m struck that both of these men thrived on war and wouldn’t have made a splash in our history without it. The same with McCain. Harry took care of McArthur and a roll over of command car took car of Patton. All we can hope for McCain is that people will come out of their comas and vote for someone who will string together coherant sets of words and thoughts and pull us out of this tailspin were in. I’ve thought for a long time the very thing that W. Clark said was exactly what should have been said a long time ago. Hey, “The Keating Five” Remember? I’ve not seen one qualification that makes McCain a candidate for anything.

By: mutt

mutt — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:16:34 +0000

whats pretty disturbing to me is you have 4 Supreme Court judges who DONT think the Second is a collective right.
Anyhow, i no more trust Repubs w/ the Second than I do the Dims, who at least figured out it burns when you touch it. Rightfully so.
The feds have militarized 7 Federalized local cops across the country, and now has a unaccountable merc army it can use “off the shelf” to use a Contragate term. Results: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/061808_strike_teams.htm

And what do “progressives” demand? Criminalizing firearms ownership across the board, via incremental means, ie, disarming law biding citizens. for “the chilllll-drennnnn.” Bull.
And they wonder why normal people treat them skeptically.

well, we dodged a real evil here, and solely because the putative “conservitive” justices voted out of character: FOR the supremacy of the citizen over the State or corporate interests. Thier votes on the 2nd & those of Habeas and other decisions that pitted the individual against State power are 180 degrees apart.
But Ill take it……….
But for no reason other than he’s not a serious thinker like, say, malcolm X, - a thinker, yes, but I dont think he sees as many moves ahead- hell continue to cede to the far right loons because they have power. Period.
too bad, but being a skeptic, Im not “dissappointed” or angry…….guys a pol, at this point less corrupted than most, by far.
Maybe the Missus can keep him on the straight & narrow-

By: goodguy

goodguy — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:12:10 +0000

“…altho it’s difficult to seperate God from the righties’ obsession with gays…”

I’d say it’s also difficult to separate God from the righties’ obsession with guns!!

Thanks for the post, Stacy. I’m an Obama man, but it definitely is unsettling to see the pandering and position modifications. Not unexpected, though.

Wouldn’t it have been great if Obama had decided to go ahead with the public financing, and won anyway…

By: Sammy

Sammy — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:07:39 +0000

They’re all the same - politicians - and now the Libertarians are no better, selling their souls, too (Bob Barr).