In case you’re interested, here’s the transcript of the previous 1 1/2 hours of the negotiation between the Ocenside officer and the suicidal young man on 12/26/08 (you’ll have to download the pdf file on your own): http://www.northcountytimes.com/articles/2008/08/07/news/sandiego/z1d643994b5cb7ad78825749e00728c18.txt
Here’s the link to the Youtube video containing the audio of the final 4 minutes before the fatal shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIcxxZnAME
Reading most of the transcript, I’m not ready to completely condemn the negotiator, as much as it’s tempting. After all, his tactics did fail. I do think, however, hearing the final 4 minutes fails to provide the context of this negotiation “tactic”. I can see the parents p.o.v.. They have to be wracked with guilt over this, being out-of-town on a ski holiday while their oldest son was suffering at home alone. Perhaps they are looking to share the guilt with others. As for the girlfriend, she’ll never be the same. Cop probably feels pretty lousy, too. Lose-Lose-Lose. Tragic, is all I can say. Make up your own minds and let me know what you think.
yup- lose/lose.
Upside; he didnt do it by driving the wrong way on the freeway…..
Comment by mutt — Sunday, August 10, 2008 @ 12:51 pm
If federal agents are busting store fronts for selling marijuana illegally—-that is one thing-—but when the county officials defy state law that is another. We need to ask ourselves what the original intent of the framers of the Constitution had in mind when they created a separation of powers between “centralized” government and a decentralized federation of states.
This San Diego governmental county mentality seems to be to support a “totalitarianism” of a “controlled” domination of all the people everywhere. No wonder the local newspaper prints so much right–wing fascist editorial—the are really neo-Mussolinis.
There are too many Mormon and Catholic and right-wing puritans here that can not stand the idea of someone engaging in any kind of pleasure activity that they themselves deny to themselves-—due to their rigid and jealous dogmatic personalities. Quoting from “The Hedonism Handbook: Mastering the Lost Arts of Leisure and Pleasure” by Michael Flocker, ‘The Puritans – the Lousiest Dinner Guest Ever’:
“…Contrary to popular opinion, the Puritans were not immune to the pleasures of alcohol. … These are the people who are in steep denial of human nature, and their tendencies to pass judgment on others only reflect the inner torment and fear they harbor, the weakness they feel when faced with their own temptations. That is, until they are videotaped in a hotel room with a hooker and a bag of coke, at which point they tearfully confess their own vulnerability, and suddenly it’s all about forgiveness.”
Or if we note Flocker’s ‘A Timeline of Intoxication’ we see that the British (from whence the puritans came) downgraded cannabis to a category of offense that no longer cause for arrest and that Emperor Nero’s physician in 70 AD made mention of marijuana’s medicinal properties in his writings but Nero was too drunk to care. In fact, if this book be true it was Thomas Jefferson that urged U.S. farmers to grow cannabis instead of tobacco—but I suspect for mundane reasons.
Nevertheless do we need a “centralized” KGB running this country with a police state apparatus or are states and their people going to assert some authority?
Comment by Library Linda — Sunday, August 10, 2008 @ 2:44 pm
The booze ban on the beach is again an issue. But more importantly here is an issue to attract young listeners—-by, say, handing out radio station flyers asking people to call in to voice their own opinions—-then hooking them into other political issues.
There was always a reasonable compromise that the city counsel could have introduced—-and that was simply to reduce the number of hours that people could drink at the beach. Rather than allowing alcohol on the beach in the morning the ban could go to say 3 pm in the afternoon til sunset.
That way there is less of a window of long term drinking, less DUIs, less fights, etc. If people need to drink before they can give the taverns and restaurants business. Win-win.
Also the amount of alcohol allowed on the beach can be limited to say 3 drinks per person and allowing only beer or wine-—no hard or distilled alcohol.
The problem is in this sanctimonious and self-righteous city the people and the recto-sclerotics at the newspaper have to do everything in extremes with their black and white mentalities. Not much subtle intelligence or wisdom here?
Comment by Butch Belly — Sunday, August 10, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
Yes OK with time to reflect the John Edwards flap is newsworthy and relevant—-to a point.
But still is not the public tired of the constant flow of sexual scandals year after year-—or I should say month after month?
First off, few people in their right mind these days would want to run for public office. Then to know we have all these self-appointed paparazzi investigations going on for the money profit-—not to mention the dirty politics. How many people don’t have something that can be construed as dirty laundry?
What do we have to look forward to: More surveillance technology, more surveillance money as a corporate police state evolves, more dirty politics, more diversion from the real issues, more media driven hysteria and pseudo-issues and more terrorism of thinking that you have no right to privacy and that the only way to not be embarressed to never take a stand on nothing. Where in this society is there a respect for privacy. Every trend is to compromise it. Very few people that I know that I would trust. Americans are not just dumb–they are shallow.
The recent ruling on the Janet Jackson nipplegate story shows how mediocre are the minds of many Americans falling into that “trivial things effects trivial minds” state in which nothing equals everything and everyone is titillated but few satisfied. If you can not live out fantasies than you can spy on others and condemn them.
Comment by Blue Nose — Sunday, August 10, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
Stacy:
I know this sounds like a long shot but do you think you might consider doing a live exclusive radio interview with Paris Hilton now that she is running for President?
Ask her about some of policy issues or at least advise her on some issues she needs to think about.
Then later you could ask her if maybe she could do some glossy photo ops for posters for her election–upend the boring placards we normally see–something kind of juicy and salacious perhaps? Maybe she could even come to San Diego to debut a few of her “totally hot” posters.
Personally I want to prove that I’m not against having a woman run for the highest office in the country–even if I felt Clinton carried to much baggage and now I’m finding that Obama is going right-wing on several important issues. Maybe Hilton might consider Kucinich for VP?
Harry Heart Throbb
Comment by Harry Heart Throbb — Monday, August 11, 2008 @ 10:46 am
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Comment by Anonymous — Tuesday, August 12, 2008 @ 3:46 pm
The booze ban on the beach is again an issue.
The booze ban has made the beach nice again. God save the booze ban!!!
Comment by Gabe — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:30 am
Harry Heart Throbb
Yea Harry, that’s what we need. I an idiot slutt in the white house. Then the world will really sit up and respect us huh? LOL!!. Why not, we have the mn slut Bill Clinton for 8 years, now we could have the female version……grand idea. Make the Spike show a full blown 3 ring circus by having Hilton on the air. She has the big money to make it al work.
Comment by Gabe — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:35 am
I am against the Mission Beach alcohol ban. I have been in this neighborhood for nearly a decade. This is the first year my personal property has been destroyed by drunks passing by my business and my home. Broken flower pots, Urine on my plants, Broken plate glass window, and the latest, Broken tile on my front stoop. I’m out over a grand so far this summer. But the beach is nice again…
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 6:00 am
Stacy:
You mentioned Naomi Klein without mentioning her recent title: “The End of America: A Letter to a Young Patriot” (2007) in which she explains in a Thomas Paine fashion how the United States compares to going authoritarian by reviewing the history of how countries have turned into dictatorships.
This important book is only about 150 pages but it has an extensive bibliography—meaning she has done a lot of the reading and research for you and then condensing the important things down to “ten” patterns that are common irrespective of whether you are talking leftist Stalinist takeover or rightist fascist coup. The comparison since 9-11 is uncanny. And it is a very readable work for people who need a primer on what has been going on since the Patriot Act.
Please try to mention this imminently important work from time to time. Gracias.
Comment by Library Linda — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 3:44 pm
Yes you are right there is a definite lethargy when it comes to political protests.
1) The main stream media ignores the protests or finds ways to portray protestors as not mainstream Americans.
2) The communist dominate the protest with Marxist literature portraying the idea that any one affiliated with war protests is a communist.
3) The democratic party is no where to be found—in fact rumor has it that some protest in the Washington the Congress was given the message via some Jewish organization to put head in sand and hide.
4) Many non-profit organizations who normally organize activism have been very inert about this Iraqi war—perhaps because of a) funding organizations have expectations on how the activism should be carried out—perhaps shunning the too much activity against certain issues and focusing energy toward ‘safer’ red herring issues like Darfur.
5) Even many Leftist and Centrist American Jews are quiet about this war against Iraq because it is something that is advocated by Israel—who played a big part in getting our country and dead soldiers involved.
P.S. Is there really any question why right wing American Jewish and Right Wing Christina radio talk show hosts and syndicated newspaper columnists are still kissing G. W. Bush despite the embarressment–but Bush’s salutations to right wing Israel racism.
Why are not Actrivist demanding separation of Church and State in Israel and Palestine–if they really give a damn about democracy and human rights?
Comment by Johnny Walk — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 4:14 pm
McCain sounds like a dictator making his decision solely on his sense of indignation and usurping demands. Whereas Paris Hilton talks in a way that shares the decision with others she is trying to be persuaded.
Victor
Comment by Victor Vote — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 4:34 pm
Stacy:
You mentioned some websites you checkout.
No mention of “ww.WhatReallyHappened.com” ?
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 4:39 pm
Note from From Deborah Feyerick
(CNN) — Some airlines are charging U.S. soldiers extra baggage fees to take their military kits with them as they set off for war.
Some U.S. airlines give military personnel a break on baggage fees, but others levy surcharges.
Military personnel carry large, heavy kit bags containing boots, clothing and gear. In the past few months, airlines have instituted fees for all travelers ranging from $15 for one bag to $250 for a third bag.
“What we want to do is nip this in the bud by exempting the military personnel who are traveling under orders from having to pay a fee on their third bag,” Veterans of Foreign Wars spokesman Joe Davis said.
The VFW sent a letter to the Air Transport Association of America, the aviation industry’s umbrella group, asking that U.S. troops be exempt from any extra baggage fees. Watch how troops are getting hit with fees »
“If you have a family at home and you stand at that airline counter and you have three bags in your hand, and they say you can’t get on board unless you pay $100 up front right now, what are you going to do?” Davis asked.
Arlines reached by CNN say troops are allowed heavier and bigger bags, and unlike commercial travelers can check two for free .
But on Wednesday, American Airlines said in a statement that it would now waive fees for a third checked bag by active service members “after recently hearing of the burden the military reimbursement process put on soldiers traveling to war zones.”
Before the change in policy, American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner said said troops are allowed 190 pounds free of charge, adding that “if they pay, they get reimbursed. So, at the end, they don’t pay a dime.”
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That’s not a good answer, the VFW’s Davis said.
“These young troops are going to war,” he said. “There’s a lot more on their mind than to have to worry or try to remember to get a hundred dollars reimbursed to them when they get into a war zone.”
The military usually issues vouchers authorizing extra baggage before a flight, but troops must pay up front if they don’t have one.
And though reimbursement is likely, pending approval, as with any business expense, it is not guaranteed.
The Air Transport Association says that it supports the troops but that baggage policies are “made independently by the individual airlines.”
The association says it has no plans to ask for an across-the-board waiver for U.S. service members.
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:06 pm
Georgia War a Neocon Election Ploy?
Posted on Aug 12, 2008
AP photo, Mary Altaffer / Irakli Gedeniedze, pool
October comes early? Sen. John McCain and Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili.
By Robert Scheer
Is it possible that this time the October surprise was tried in August, and that the garbage issue of brave little Georgia struggling for its survival from the grasp of the Russian bear was stoked to influence the U.S. presidential election?
see story at : http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080812_georgia_war_a_neocon_election_ploy/
via ww.whatreallyhappened.com where interesting leads happen.
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:10 pm
“Flashback” story via ww.whatreallyhappened.com daily leads:
Troops from Atlanta will train in Republic of Georgia
By MONI BASU The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 07/14/08 NOTE: [about a month ago]
A large contingent of Georgia Army National Guard soldiers flew to the Republic of Georgia on Sunday for joint military exercises at a time when tension is brewing in the region.
The soldiers, mostly from the metro area, will be part of “Immediate Response 2008,” which will amount to the largest U.S. footprint on the crossroads of Asia and Europe since the Cold War began.
see story at: http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories/2008/07/13/georgia_national_guard_.html
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
Aug. 11, 2008 story via www.whatreallyhappened.com leads:
Home U.S. Military Instructors Command Hirelings in Georgia
Thousands of mercenaries are fighting for Georgia in this burning conflict with South Ossetia. They are commanded by the U.S. military instructors, RIA Novosti reported with reference to a high-ranked officer of Russia’s military intelligence.
“From 2,500 to 3,000 mercenaries fight against Russia’s peacekeepers on behalf of Georgia,” the unnamed source said. Amid them are the natives of Ukraine, some Baltic states and the Caucasus regions.
The U.S. military instructors directly command and coordinate actions of mercenaries without being involved in actual fighting, the source specified. According to intelligence data, there are roughly 1,000 military instructors of the United States in Georgia.
see: http://www.kommersant.com/p-13081/mercenaries_Georgia_U.S._instructor/
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:24 pm
story via ww.whatreallyhappened.com
The Cold, Hard Facts about the Georgia-Russia War
Dr. David Duke
The usual suspects who control the media and politics of the United States are once more lying to the American people and to the world. Here are the facts that can be easily verified within the mainstream media, but are buried beneath the rhetoric of anti-Russianism. —Dr. David Duke
Here are the Cold Hard Facts:
1) Ossetia is a ninety percent Russian area. Georgia has made repeated efforts to ethnically cleanse the region. Russian peacekeeping troops have been in Ossetia for years and were approved in international agreements so as to protect the citizens of the region from attacks by the Georgian military.
2) Georgia, not Russia, started this war. Georgia invaded Ossetia trying to take control of the region and ethnically cleanse the Russian population.
3) The Georgian Army, commanded by their Minister of Defense (who is also an Israeli citizen), launched a surprise invasion and attack that caused the deaths of at least a thousand people in its first 24 hours. This attack was committed while the attention of the world was on the Olympics.
4) In the wake of Georgia’s military invasion and massacres, Russia responded by battling to protect the Ossetian people and fighting the Georgia military so it could not continue its invasion and assault. Thousands of Ossetian civilians became refugees from the Georgian assault.
5) Instead of reporting these cold, hard facts to the world, the Jewish-influenced media has been dishonestly reporting that the Zionist-allied Georgian state is a victim of “Russian aggression” and a “Russian invasion.” Georgia invaded, bombed, and massacred the people of Ossetia to start this conflict. On the cable news networks for hours after the Georgian launched invasion and massacres in Ossetia, all Americans were permitted to see was the Georgia President and Jewish U.S. State Department officials screaming about how Georgia was “invaded” by Russia!
6) Instead of condemning Georgia from the outset for the invasion and massacre, Neocon controlled politicians such as George Bush are condemning Russia and attempting to move America and Europe toward a completely unjustified conflict with Russia.
Now I offer you six reasons why the heavily Jewish-influenced media and political establishment of America side with Georgia:
1) As Israeli newspapers freely report, Israel has long allied itself with Georgia, trained its troops, and supplied weapons to Georgia. Key figures in the Georgia government are Israeli citizens and partisans for Israel, including the “Georgian” who directly launched the war, Defense Minister Davit Kezerashvili. The major “Georgia” Spokesman is Temur Yakobashvili, also an Israeli citizen, is Georgia’s minister of reintegration.
2) Israel has strategic oil pipeline and economic interests in Georgia that it wants to keep under control.
3) Israel and Jewish powerbrokers around the world are angry with Russia because Russia keeps the Jewish Neocon-controlled United States from total domination of United Nations policy toward Palestine, Syria, Lebanon and toward a war against Iran.
4) The Russian government has had the courage to prosecute some of the Jewish criminal Oligarchs in Russia such as Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky and others, a great many of whom have fled with their stolen billions to Israel and other nations.
5) Russia is a democratic state, and not controlled by special interests such as the United States is by AIPAC and Jewish campaign money. While Jewish-influenced newspapers and politicians complain about “democracy in Russia,” America maintains a completely controlled two party system that is structured to stifle Third Party dissent and representation. Russia is no longer a communist state but an anti-communist state in the true sense. While Russia has moved toward more freedom and healthy national sentiment, America has moved toward more state control of every aspect of life. Ironically, today American policy is dominated by Neocons, a Jewish extremist led group that was founded by followers of Leon Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) the notorious Jewish Bolshevik head of the Red Army in the early years of the Communist revolution in Russia, a man who murdered millions of Christians.
6) Zionists are trying to make the great, overwhelming White nation of Russia an enemy of America and Europe because nationalist Russia stymies their plans for the Mideast and for the New World Order. The conflict between Russia and Georgia is not in the true interest of either country, but one in which their main enemy, Russia is weakened both financially and in the court of world opinion, and Israel gets to sell Georgia more weapons. Once you understand the powerful role of the Jewish supremacists in media and government you can begin understand the nature of the world’s major conflicts.
What it all boils down to is simply the fact that powerful Jewish influence in politics and media in the United States see it in Israel’s interest and the interest of the Jewish people to side with Georgia and try to harm Russia. Sadly, as reflected by our Israeli policy, by our catastrophic War for Israel in Iraq, by our Jewish-influenced tottering to the brink of a cataclysmic war with Iran, and by this insane escalation of conflict with anti-communist Russia, we are acting not in the interest of the American people, not in the interest of freedom, justice or fairness, but simply showing our complete subservience to the Jewish extremists.
© 2008 Dr. David Duke
SOURCE: http://incogman.wordpress.com/2008/08/12/david-duke-the-cold-hard-facts/
URL: http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/08/13/the_cold_hard_facts_about_the_georgia_ru
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:30 pm
Story via ww.whatreallyphappened.com leads:
Corporations Don’t Pay Income Taxes: GAO
By Richard Rubin, CQ Staff
Most corporations, including the vast majority of foreign companies doing business in the United States, pay no income taxes, according to a Government Accountability Office report released Tuesday.
During the eight-year period covered by the report, 72 percent of foreign-owned corporations went at least one year without owing taxes, and the same was true for 55 percent of domestic corporations.
Small companies were much more likely to pay no taxes than larger companies. Still, more than 3,500 large domestic corporations — with more than $250 million in assets or $50 million in gross receipts — did not pay taxes in 2005.
see full article at: http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002937306&parm1=3&cpage=1
Comment by Information — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
Theres some pretty informed comment (not mine) at the Abu Muqawama COIN war site.
The ethnic Russian population in both enclaves seems to be a small %. It seems (jury is out) that escalating provocations by the Georgians, (encouraged by our Nuts in Power? Seems like it) ended up with Russian soldiers, sharing duties w/ Georgian & other forces- “peacekeepers”- being shelled or rocketed while in thier camp. Seems like.
The Russians were loaded, positioned, & had the selectors on rock & roll. All they needed was an excuse.
Ive said it before: Our word as a nation is meaningless.
Anyhow, the learned minds at AM- go to the links, under Intel, on my webpage- check ALL the Intel links- see how this move affects power plays …….Great Russia- coz the smart heads think Ukraine will come back in the fold or be next- walked away with NATO’s lunch & savagely undercut US leverage in that part of the world.
This smacking down of (out of its mind) Georgia has serious repercussions.
Someone else posted he’s not satisfied w/ Peacenik reaction, but you know- its sort of a standard line. Some idiotic move by the Wingnut Right blows up, & its the peaceniks who arent quick enough to jump thru some clowns hoop who are lacking……
Id trust Russian State TV as much as Id trust CNN or Fox…….actually, English Al Jazzera is probably a better source….
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/mccain-in-the-21st-centur_n_118759.html
I was going to rant about this but I figured huffpo said it better. McCain seems to think that in the 21st century nations don’t invade and occup other nations. Oops! What would you call Irag then Mr. Foreign Policy McCain? Take it away folks…
Comment by Justin — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 6:50 pm
Meanwhile, things arent going well in Pakistan, either…..
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JH14Df01.html
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 8:19 pm
English Al Jazzera is probably a better source….
Comment by mutt — Wednesday, August 13, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
so you listen to a lot of what these folks say do ya muttstain? It’s all adding up now.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 5:43 am
I just read Politico.com’s story on Jerome Corsi’s new Obamanation book. If pointed out some of the many factual errors in the book along with his nutty way right theories such as Bush’s plan to make US, Canada, and Mexico one country. As much as I would love to believe that to add fuel for my contempt of this administration, it’s still total bullshit.
Anyway, one of the debunked myths that Corsi writes of in the new book is more or less that Obama was in church while Jeremiahg Wright gave one of his “hate whitey” type of sermons [for some reason, people on the right feel that blacks get a fair shake and have always gotten a fair shake in life]. Of course, there was proof that Obama was elsewhere during a specific sermon. Of course, Corsi dismisses the critique as nitpicking and that we are missing the point of this and that it may be possible that the BLOG he got his information from might have been mistaken. Hmmmm, so let me get this straight, so you did your fact checking on right wing blogs? A f***ing blog? Like the one I am writing in now? You mean to tell me that I can write a book based on other people’s opinions on blogs and I can have it actually be a NYT best seller? FOR NON-FICTION no less?
I read that story and I am now completely stunned by the level to which anyone on the right will stoop just to pur a guy with an R in front of his name in the whitehouse. You know that the trick is going to work too. We saw it before…we had the facts and all it took besides those swiftboat ads was a sellout like Zell Miller being at the GOP convention. Well, the pieces are in play because Joe Lieberman is going to be this year’s Zell Miller. It’s really fucking sad. We may just become an even bigger laughing stock while all the current administration lackeys yuck it up in their new digs in the UAE somewhere.
Comment by BigJ — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 6:06 am
Is this were Ricky Roberts and Roger Hedgycock come to play?
Comment by Yippie Kai — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 8:43 am
No, Lil Roger & Lil Ricky splash around w/ Lil Georgie in the shallow end of the pool. Gene, too, i think…. ……..this is the deep end.
This is a nice piece. I dont agree with all of it- Sully has a historical blind spot re: what passed for conservitism in the 50’s-80’s in the US- but still, its good to remember there is an antiimperialist school of putative conservitive thought….
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/after-the-cold.html#more
Comment by mutt — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 9:11 am
Thanks Mutt, I’ll take a nice tall glass of USA made beer. Have any Stone ABA on tap?
Comment by Yippie Kai — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 10:45 am
Stone IPA is a pale shadow. all hippied up, surprised they dont put cookie dough innit. tragically, You cant find Ballentine Ale out here. real ale, as dry as an Antarctic valley. Rice, you see. Heads foam from the top down. Thier seasonal IPA was for seasoned alesmen…..
No, havent found an ale worth drinkin out here. And stuff all the wierd-assed fruit variants, or friggin oatmeal, fercrissake.
My rare beer will be a Sopporo, or other extra dry ….
BYOB…….
Comment by mutt — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 11:51 am
Off topic, but I was reminded by your CA music selection today:
Check out the Laurel Canyon saga http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html — dirt, intrigue, and an incredible connection between hippie rockers and the military, along with dozens of questionable deaths, and mostly well-written with quite a dash of self-deprecating humor.
Comment by Kathleen — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
and another profane history of lost R&R- the Redlegs, & the Sausilito houseboat scene…..
im an ol shipmate of Captain Garbage…….a lost world. it would be overrun by SWAT forces today, and all involved sent away on “conspiracy” charges.
Modern days is pale stuff…..
http://www.waldopoint.net/belkamp/redlegs_1.html
Comment by mutt — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Great read, mutt–thanks! I’m just starting part 2 …. Musta been some interesting times, wow.
Comment by Kathleen — Thursday, August 14, 2008 @ 7:43 pm
http://www.slate.com/id/2197504/?GT1=38001
This horrific abuse must be stopped. Wait until P.I.T.A. gets wind of this.
Comment by Gabe — Friday, August 15, 2008 @ 4:53 am
FAC-IN-ATIN, Kathleen….heck of a tale, well told. Im skeptical of political theories involving vast conspiracies, but the outline is pure counter-insurgency….and I remember well the vast gulf between the “politicals” & the hippies, ca 69-72 in Cambridge, Mass. in my circles, Woodstock was very much looked at as nit wit self indulgence, there was a WAR ON, after all.
and the hippy world certainly bled off a lot of political energy/anger, as I saw, and was a part of.
the two worlds were very much seperate, not something understood today in pop histories…..
Comment by mutt — Friday, August 15, 2008 @ 8:03 am
www.stealingamericavotebyvote.org check it out
Comment by knifemaster — Friday, August 15, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
Glad you enjoyed it, mutt
Every other paragraph I was thinking WTF?! Talk about bursting my bubble. The rich really are different, eh? I once went to a party in LC–the new parents kept their infant in a drawer LOL! It was actually a cute little “bed” and wasn’t abusive as far as I could tell. For all I know, it was the home of one of those rockers, pre-fame. I probably would have liked Sausalito due to my Bohemian nature, but, alas, I’m sold on SD weather; any other tales to recommend?
Stacy, actually, there are trees with oil–nut trees. Look at this: http://www.canoeplants.com/kukui.html (aka candlenut) Snip:
“The kukui nut has many uses. Originally it was most valued for its light, the oil of the white kernels being extracted for its use in stone lamps and in ti leaf sheath torches. The shelled nuts were skewered on a coconut frond mid-rib and lit one by one, from the top to bottom, as they sat in a container of sand or dirt, or in the earth itself.” Kewl, no? It grows in HI but probably could work here, too.
But like corn, I’d rather eat nuts than fuel a wasteful lifestyle with them.
Third topic: any chance for a meetup before we blow up the world? (some expect that to begin on an upcoming New Moon aargh) When you first joined 1700, I wrote Larson suggesting it (and thanking him for bringing you on board). What I’d like to suggest is to find a few places scattered around the county (on bus/trolley lines, please) that are “librul”-friendly and preferably “low rent” (i.e., cheap, but good eats). Although loaded w/cops, Quatros Milpas fits the latter–too bad it’s not open evenings that I know of. I’m sure others will have more applicable ideas.
ROFL @ Mikey: “crapture, diaboligarchy”
Have a nice weekend y’all
Comment by Kathleen — Friday, August 15, 2008 @ 4:35 pm
Good news for all lawabiding Amerinas….Bad news for screw up and law breakers. OH yea and wouldbe terrorists as well. Not that we have ever had any within our brders you understand..
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26231181
Comment by Gabe — Saturday, August 16, 2008 @ 9:19 am
To those who are trying to pay attention and stay on some sort of topical subject may I direct your attention to http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/watch.html probably the most concise interview on the problems we face today in this country by a man who everyone should be paying attention to, Col. Andy Bacevioch graduate of West Point and who had a son killed in Iraq 2007. His book “The Limits of Power” a must read.
Comment by knifemaster — Saturday, August 16, 2008 @ 9:56 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26220920
Politics and religion are joined at the hip. Which Christain will you be voting for again? The idea that they can be seperated ( at least they way it is currently thought of) will not happen. The idea was that there would be no officail state Church like Europe had. Other than that God will always be an issue. There is just no getting around him.
Comment by Gabe — Sunday, August 17, 2008 @ 5:36 am
He rules…..http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26272687
Comment by Gabe — Tuesday, August 19, 2008 @ 5:10 am
Russia’s going into Georgia sure looks like a replay of “Shock and Awe” to me.
Did anyone hear about Putin waterboarding a couple of guys who told him Georgia was developing WMDs? No wonder Putin attacked ‘em — What’s a world leader to do?
Comment by goodguy — Tuesday, August 19, 2008 @ 2:07 pm