Hey, folks, don’t look know but McCain has “surged” past Obama in the latest Reuters poll of likely voters (http://news.yahoo.com/story//nm/20080820/ts_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc), and I can already envision the response to this: 1)it’s only a poll 2) nobody ever ask ME who I was voting for 3) there are still 2 1/2 months before the election, etc. I admit there’s a bit of “I told you so in this” as I’ve said repeatedly that Obama (or any Dem for that matter) should be wiping the floor with McCain given his history of backing every failed and unpopular position that ever dribbled out of Bush’s rear end, and that even Obama’s 7 or 8 percentage point lead in earlier polls was astonishingly small. But, old friends, this here is the U-nited States of Uhmerica and across the Great Homeland this shit sells: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/auto-makers-on-tire-inflation/..and so does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JhbEjPNAqs . And furthermore, Obama’s new hawkishness on foreign policy has curried him no favor with up-tighty righties, only scorn from his own base. Watching Senator Obama appear before the Jesus Forum the other night was like watching a guy who had memorized the lines from Hamlet only to find himself opening night walking onto the set of Bye Bye Birdie. And yes, there are 2 1/2 months before the election and the race will tighten and there will be swings in the polls but if this thing is a statistical dead heat going into November, who do You think will find a way to “win”?
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
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Again’ should this be a valid poll result, someone should tell the “O” man ,in politics nice does not win and yes shit does sell especially when all indications show the brain dead masses still vote against their own interests. As I sit and watch the “O” man give his stirling uplifting speaches, I can only wonder —- Who’s Listening? Slowly that great optomism we all had for a while is real shakey
Comment by knifemaster — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 10:06 am
Who will win? Whomever is in the deepest pockets of CORPORUPTION — a word I saw first today on http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm
Comment by Kathleen — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 10:17 am
As soon as I saw that headline, I realized that the country is doomed…fucking doomed I tell ya. A bunch of dumbshits is gonna still vote for the status quo. Our lives are gonna be shitty for another 8 years because rest assured if Keating 5 McCain wins when he has no business winning, then he will win in 2012 when he fucks up this country further. I have faith in absolutely fuck all now.
Comment by BigJ — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 11:21 am
This is a valid poll result, it’s Reuters/Zogby, very reputable. John Zogby is a liberal too. So, what Stacy said…
In case you think polls/statistics aren’t valid, if you do them correctly they are. I had a professor in college who could determine the location of the next lottery ticket winner and he was normally very close if not right. That’s not to say that there aren’t some unscrupulous pollsters out there. There are. You just need to figure out the ones you can trust. Zogby is one.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 12:33 pm
Here’s an interesting opinion piece: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/18/cafferty.mccain/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
I’m afraid this is what we will be stuck with for the next 4 to 8 years.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
Turns my stomach that any citizen of Our Country would want to win an occupation that should never have happened in the first place, let alone change their mind in a week about who they support, based on MSM. Turns my stomach when polls attract so much attention. The guy was on vacation last week. That’s all I think this is. Simplify. Simplify.
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 12:57 pm
Loreli– Not a question of belief as to whether polls are accurate its why exit polls have not proved to be accurate because of the machines being flipped after the fact. Listened to Mark Crispin Miller yesterday on similar subject www.markcrispinmiller@blogspot.com. Scareing the shit out of you again. Zogby is one of the best but had called it wrong at the last exit polls 2004 not because he was wrong but because of the black box system.
Comment by knifemaster — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 1:10 pm
I’ve had this sinking feeling all along, and now it’s worse! I wonder if that’s not what Hillary’s die-hard supporters want, in the hopes she has a better chance in ‘12? Hey, I supported HRC, but I got over it and support Obama. And HRC did lie about the sniper incident in Bosnia. I think that damaged her chances a lot and it was her own doing. I sincerely hope more HRC supporters will see the light and support Obama. ANYTHING is better than four more years of the same or worse policies!
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 2:15 pm
McCain is ahead, only slightly, because of negative campaigning — because he has nothing else.
And, believe it or not, McCain is starting to reap what he’s sowed, because more negative stories about him are coming out.
And according to other polls, Obama voters are much more enthusiastic than McCain supporters, across the board.
Obama is starting to fight back, and will catch up. Is that any guarantee he’ll win? No, of course not.
Don’t get down, people — instead, spread the word about John McCain and work on the turnout!
For God’s sake people, it’s August! It’s not too late.
Comment by Vriendje — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 2:21 pm
Oh, I get it. Thanks Knifemaster.
Comment by Lorelei — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 2:42 pm
Stacy:
Fact: The mainstream media is manipulated in a big and sophisticated way.
Fact: Elections are stolen with a myriad of tactics and the U.S. Congress does little about it.
Fact: Candidates are often attacked with lies and innuendos by organized smear websites and various swiftboat conspiracis including the timely release of deceitful books.
Question: So why give most polling operations (either non-profit or corporate) much credence—given the comprehensive corruption of this culture?
Please get a dog snarling and barking recording for your box—-you need some sound effects that relate to legitimate amounts of distrust and cynicism.
Comment by Sid Cynic — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
It’s no wonder why I have no faith in this country anymore. The citizenry in this country is so intellectually retarded, it’s hard to be optimistic about anything. And like you, I don’t doubt the validity of the polls being conducted at all. I’ll take them at their word. I think the polls are accurate. I wish they weren’t. But knowing the utter ignorance that’s permeated and taken over American society, it’s hard for me to think such a thing.
Comment by Paul — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 5:43 pm
So we are trying to cross-pollinate Stacy Taylor fans with the “I can’t think for myself, please feed me my talking points, and I need the kool-aid to wash it down” Mark Larson??? You must be joking. Anybody who tuned in on Tuesday morning and heard him make fun of Obermann’s special comment about McSame surely lost all remaining respect for the guy.
He rails on and on about the “cheerleaders for the recession” and then he joins the bandwagon for WWIII.
Clearly he makes so much money this economic slowdown is not even on his radar screen. What’s that like??
I see the Doomsday Clock moving forward and just cannot listen to him serve up the same crap everyday. Olbermann thinks, speaks his own mind, sticks his neck out for all to take whacks at, and questions authority. My kind of person, someone I really can respect.
Larson, no thanks. I can get traffic, sports, the business report, and right-wing bullshit on a multitude of channels here in town.
Comment by Greg in Bonita — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 6:34 pm
Apropos of Paul’s comment and many of our sentiments, here’s a snippet from a new-to-me blogger:
“USA: Beacon of Stupid
posted by Space Cowboy | Wednesday, August 20, 2008
During one of George Carlin’s later shows, I distinctly remember his saying something along the following lines: “There are a lot of stupid fucking people in this country. And they all vote.”
As time goes on, the number of people referenced in that first sentence seems to keep growing at an exponential rate, and I see no way of stopping it in the short term. While Bush may have spoken about no children being left behind, the fact of the matter is that he couldn’t give a rat’s ass if they did. Not only does Bush not value education, but he convinced his followers to value his drinking instead of his thinking. And why are his followers like this?
BECAUSE THEY’RE FUCKING STUPID.
And it’s not just following Bush, per se. There are a bunch of people out there who, to this day, still think that Iraq had WMD and was directly responsible for that infamous day in September. They still blindly support this war like rabid face-painted fans at a football game, blissfully uncaring of the fact that the man who is universally agreed upon to have masterminded the event in question is still relaxing somewhere on a chase lounge by a pool with a cute umbrella in his drink. They still think that it’s to our benefit to remain in Iraq indefinitely, as if we would actually “defeat terrorism” by our continued presence there. And why do they believe this?
BECAUSE THEY’RE FUCKING STUPID.”
More http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/08/usa-beacon-of-stupid.html
Comment by Kathleen — Wednesday, August 20, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
Slowly that great optomism we all had for a while is real shakey
I realized that the country is doomed…fucking doomed I tell ya
Our lives are gonna be shitty for another 8 years
I have faith in absolutely fuck all now.
I’m afraid this is what we will be stuck with for the next 4 to 8 years.
because of the machines being flipped after the fact
but because of the black box system
I’ve had this sinking feeling all along, and now it’s worse!Fact: The mainstream media is manipulated in a big and sophisticated way.
Fact: Elections are stolen with a myriad of tactics and the U.S. Congress does little about it.
various swiftboat conspiracis including the timely release of deceitful books.
It’s no wonder why I have no faith in this country anymore I see the Doomsday Clock moving forward
“There are a lot of stupid fucking people in this country. And they all vote.”
Now my comments. Yes there are a lot of stupid votes and half of them are democrates.
As far as te rest of the doom and gloomers here that are crying about how horrible it is and how bad it is going to be etc…… Typical lefties that paot here. And no wonder. Listen to Stacy’s show for 3 hours a day and I would feel the same most likely if I believed what he sayd ( which I don’t ). It’s nothing but bad news and how horribe everything is and how stupid everybody out there( except for him and his listeners of coarse ) is and how you are all being screwed by Big this and Big that….
Now to simply answer the question posed by Stacy without all of the hand waving , ranting , hanky wringing, sniviling, crying, dire predictions of doom and gloom and the clock counting down to the end of the world in the next couple of years if Mc Cain wins.
This answer is simply ………………….McCain.
But if Obama wins I am going to pull a hollywood liberal stunt and move to another country……Probably China, for obvious reasons..
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 5:21 am
iAy,yi!
iNo me gusta!
A little swagger (a la bush),
a grizzly smile,
a phoney interview,
sell your soul,
a few boasts of continued Amerikan Empire,( “we’re gonna Win!”)
a 51 to 49% split
and a stolen election!
Comment by Gary — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 10:16 am
“and a stolen election”
Yet more sour grapes hanking wringing. There will be lots more also.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 11:01 am
Gabe talks a lot but has nothing,
and I mean nothing to say about Enron John,
and we all know it!
Move to China!, - please -
show us those real colors of yours,
and drop us a line if the ‘commitee’ gives you a day off!
Comment by Gary — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 11:15 am
No matter how many times you change your skin Gabe you still come off as a complete and utter idiot, one who hasn’t an origional thought nor thought processes. One thing I can give you is you tend to annoy everyone without exception. “Funk and Wagnalls’ An-noy—-to be troublesom,to bother; irritate. To do harm to or injure- In hatred– An Annoy’er. Time for you to go fishing again.
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 11:16 am
I am so tired of being afraid. I just watched the McCrap Evil video. Yikes! Talk about a crap question. Only four choices…none of them rational. Ignore evil and your dead. Negotiate with it and you’ll be lied to, and dead. Contain it and it escapes. Defeat it? And people applauded that answer, like it could possibly be done! You can’t defeat Evil. It’s not possible to wipe out all aberrant genetic mutations. You address it evil by evil. Am I crazy? Are we in 5th Grade Sunday School? Crap. Crap. Crap.
Stacy, are you trying to make me verbally vomit up all my disdain for the Evil Machine of Right? This is one evil we’re going to address, Right Here! Right Now!
If McCain wants to defeat evil, he should start with the man in the mirror.
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
There’s a funny bumper sticker in Pakistan I heard about. It says something like, be nice to America, if you don’t they will bring you democracy.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 12:21 pm
Lorelei, you just reminded me of some other bumper stickers I’ve seen right here in San Diego:
Please make the scary republican go away. (my personal favorite)
Keep your rosaries off my ovaries.
It’s all fun and games until the Vice President shoots you in the face.
Progressive and Proud.
Why do we kill people to show people that killing people is wrong?
If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? Okay, that’s not political. I was depressed and needed to smile.
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
“No matter how many times you change your skin Gabe you still come off as a complete and utter idiot, one who hasn’t an origional thought nor thought processes”
Interesting comment. It’s pretty much the same way I view most of your comments here. Nothing original in any of the above posts. Just the usual doom and gloom and fear mongering cry baby bullshit. Just read it dude. It’s nothing but that from you lemmings…..I simplycopied what you fiolks said and posted in n one lump. God you people do need to get a freaking glass that is half full at least. Go join the local pesimist club why don’t you. Of yea you already have. It’s called the Democrybay party……
And yes I am off to the Sierra’s for 4 days of camping and fishing in the high country lakes. Almost perfect since there is not a bunch of defeatist whinning about how we are doomed and how horrible it all is and how big this and big that is screwing us blind and , and , and…..no Left wing negetive talk radio at all….pretty much heaven
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 1:05 pm
gabe; Eat shit and Die, your absence will be greatly appreciated. “Sorry to the weak at heart”
Comment by knifemaster — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 1:43 pm
Don’t be afraid Rita, be a fighter! I like your bumper stickers, but I like the Smurf one best. It made me smile too. Speaking of smurfs, have you seen that guy who drank so much colloidal silver he turned blue? He looks like Papa Smurf. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 1:54 pm
Thanks Lorelei…that was truly disgusting and I couldn’t watch the whole thing. Ain’t people sumpthin?
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 2:06 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26337243
Probably done by someone like Dullknife. You know how he is so full of love for his fellow man etc…..
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 8:31 pm
“gabe; Eat shit and Die, your absence will be greatly appreciated. “Sorry to the weak at heart”
Can’t you just feel all of that leftwing love and compassion. Can’t you just feel that love of fellow man and all of that. I love how it just comes shining through like a breath of fresh air. And you wonder why your side can’t win an election or the hearts of a majority?………You will never hate your way to anything worth while. But keep beating your haed against that wall pocketknife.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 8:35 pm
About the Sattle Ranch Bible Zombie forum for brainwashed zealous morons(I’m polite tonight apparently). It has become clear to me that the right wing boobs in this nation care far more about the human rights of a fetus than about those of either US soldiers or, God forbid, Iraqi civilians. All I want on this issue is some consistency. For instance I could see how a complete pacifist who rejects all war or bombing and who also thinks of a fetus a living organism could be against all. But to chear on this war or any other whacko Neo Con foreign policy, slap a bumper sticker on the SUV and wave a flag jingoistically while your own countrymen(and women in uniform as well) die is just fine. As long as you don’t abort the freshly conceived fetus. Unreal.
By the way I’m starting to think Hillary would make a good VP choice. Whatever it takes to win, that’s what I say. Either HRC or Biden. And I agree with an earlier post, dude was on vacation. The convention is coming, as is one mother of a speach, so let’s let’s all take our fingers off the panic button for now. And no more lunatic church events.
Comment by Justin — Thursday, August 21, 2008 @ 8:51 pm
One cou always just not join the military if one didn’t want to be involved in a war………I know that is far to logical for you guys to get.
Thank God for the Church event. It was nice to see Obama fuble the ball like and bafoon that he is and show us all that he actually does not know jack about the Bible that he claims to believe in. These people need to stop pretending that they are Christians just to get votes in the first place. It’s realy quite Hypocritical. All of the DemoantiGodcrates and Obama in particular need to stop campaigning in Churchs to start with. And stop sucking all of that money out of the poor peoples pocket books . Hell Obama is a freaking millioniare. How about he pay for his own Damn campaign……….wonder how many houses he owns….etc etc etc. A stuffed suit phoney like Obama will never be the President. Not that I care much for McCain really. But at least we know what he actually is and believes in. Throw in the towel and wave the white flag all of you pesimistic kill joys. Obama is history…….Bye bye to the other white guy in this election…….why is he always refered to as being black in the first place. He is only half of each. Why is he not refered to as being white ever? It’s just another phoney ” vote for me ” tactic……That man has changed his colors and ideas so many times who knows what he is really all about…..I certainly will not be giving him my vote……
Comment by Gabe — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 3:34 am
One last rant…………
And please don’t, PLEASE don’t ask the great white hope any tough questions that he has not been given the answers to before hand. Seems these woud be “above his pay grade” and he will not be able to answer them for us.
Above his pay grade? what the hell is that. The guy is running for President. NOTHING will be above his pay grade then….That has to be the stupidist statement of this entire campaign so far. No dout about it. That guy simply will not answer a question that he does not like. That is cowardly and not fitting of a person that wants to be of “TOP PAY GRADE RANK”
I can hear him at a press breifing about Iraq now. “Sorry mr. reporter journalist dude to answer that question would be above my pay grade.” But mr. Presindent sir. You are the top pay grade. There is none above you……
ah well next question please……..
Comment by Gabe — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 4:07 am
Maybe Gabe will get lost in the wilderness on his trip to the Sierras.
Comment by Lorelei — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Or back under a rock
Comment by goodgolly — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 9:55 am
The HRC supporters are planning a “Million Women March” in Denver @ the Convention. They have a blog @ http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/. Click on the topic “Million Women March.” Someone needs to play the Eagles song “Get Over It” for them. I hope they don’t embarrass the Dem party. That must be why the Denver police are so over-prepared…a million angry women, yikes!
Comment by goodgolly — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 9:59 am
Obama picks Biden. I’m glad, Biden brings tons of experience and a tenacious debate style, plus he’s from rural Pennsylvania, Stacy and I can relate to the no BS approach that comes with that region. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go throw in the towel and do some serious kill joy activities, I’m such a pessimist. Either that or oh hell, drink a beer and play some guitar…
Comment by Justin — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 10:35 pm
Im outta town, checkin in from NYC….A good subject for some research is what McNuts was part of when he got shot down: Operation Rolling Thunder, an aerial campaign of mass terror (to say the least) 600,000 TONS (i think, + or-)
of bombs on N. Viet Nam alone (S.VN , Laos & Cambodia dont figure in)- thats more tonnage than we dropped in the entire Pacific campaign of War 2.
2 million plus dead, to shove a puppet government down peoples throats….well, the Viets have a finer sense of patriotism than we ever will.
And McNuts take on all this, later, in retrospect? We didnt bomb enough houses, churches, hospitals, villages, and bus stops. (the US Army dictionary , back when I was soldiering, had this definition under the entry “Military Target”: “ANY person, place, or thing which gives, or tends to give, aid, or comfort, to the enemy”
So, they arent lying when they say they were bombing “military targets”)
He has Zero recognition the entire thing was a crime, start to finish. Which makes him well qualified to take over the Cheney Administration….
Hell, I knew the war was a fraud by my 3rd day there, & I quit HS, no Annapolis grad here….
But that level of breathtaking stupidity appeals to some, as we see. And we see what kind of people it appeals to….
Miss the show, miss y’all, lookin fwd to tunin in come Wed…..
Comment by mutt — Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 3:14 am
Meanwhile, since we havent the sand to hold war criminals accountable, here we are AGAIN.
Good piece on recent events in Iraq…..SERIOUS events, both foretold & foreshadowed….
http://abumuqawama.blogspot.com/2008/08/sons-of-iraq-collapsing.html
Comment by mutt — Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 3:20 am
So the uptightie-righties are foaming at the mouth wanting to open the Alaska wilderness to drilling?
Question - How much oil is in the ANWR?
Answer - About 10 million barrels. (source: )
Question - How much oil has the military used on our war on Iraq so far?
Answer - About 3 million barrels. (source: Estimate calculated based on information from and )
By the time we’re out of Iraq, we’ll probably have used all the oil that’s in ANWR!
Just think - If we hadn’t had this stupid war on Iraq to begin with, gas prices wouldn’t have skyrocketed and drilling in Alaska and off our coasts wouldn’t even be an issue!
The neocons are insane…
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:14 am
Oops - I don’t know why the sources didn’t make it. I’ll try once more and if it doesn’t work, I found them via google…
Question - How much oil is in the ANWR?
Answer - About 10 million barrels. (source: www.sibelle.info/oped15.htm )
Question - How much oil has the military used on our war on Iraq so far?
Answer - About 3 million barrels. (source: Estimate calculated based on information from www.energybulletin.net/node/13199 and www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/oil.html#Howused )
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:16 am
Oops again - in the above, it should have been billion, not million, for the figures…
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:22 am
You know, after going through the above, maybe somebody on this site had better check my math!!
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:25 am
Another site, where the uptightie-righties actually seem to have gotten it right for a change…
http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/mar/10/00006/
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:29 am
Then, of course, theres this aspect of it.
The very last line points out a very basic truth…..
http://www.gregpalast.com/obama’s-secret-war-profiteering-tax/#more-2026
Comment by mutt — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 10:49 am
Thanks mutt. I can’t help but quote it…
“Vietnam showed us that foreign wars don’t end when the invader can no longer fight, but when the invasion is no longer profitable.”
Comment by goodguy — Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 11:37 am
Revisionist history has the Dims voting to cut funds for the war, but it was the Repubs that pulled that plug: it had become Bad for Business. The pathological drive to “put the war behind us” meant there was no actual public accounting, whicxh led to both the history of the war being easily rewritten, (witness my fellow veterans wallowing in self pity about how we were supposedly “stabbed in the back” & McNuts utter inability to cop to what a monumental crime he was participating in.)
and it led to, as I keep crankin on about, the Central American butchery, which led to this utter & complete criminal disaster……
Missed standin out on the corner w/. my Enough crew…..one interesting thing. While I was in lower (Dutch) Manhatten, I strolled over to the Morgan Bank bldg, on Wall St. The facade bears the shrapnel gouges of a 1920 purported Anarchist Society attack- several hundred lbs of dynamite under a pile of sash wieghts concealed in a wagon (no word on the fate of the horse- the Anachists, if thats who they were- got away)- this a 4 minute walk from the WTC hole.
A change in method and scale, similar motives…..tho I prefer the Anarchists of yesteryear, by far.
I walked in streets known to Emma Goldman……..
Comment by mutt — Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 8:42 am
Came across this gem, had to share- it concerns the Cheney admin & events in Georgia….in which, btw, it seems we’ve “lost” some soldiers….
Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review.
He lays it out:
The US is not a superpower. It is a bankrupt farce run by imbeciles who were installed by stolen elections arranged by Karl Rove and Diebold. It is a laughing stock, that ignorantly affronts and attempts to bully an enormous country equipped with tens of thousands of nuclear weapons.
Comment by mutt — Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 8:48 am
Time to attempt to open the eyes of the American public on the issue of “Drill Now”, and the need to keep our oil in our country.
http://www.globalwarmingisreal.com/blog/2008/08/20/us-oil-exports-at-record-high-drill-now-mantra-continues-our-domestic-dysfunction
Greg in Bonita
Comment by Greg in Bonita — Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 8:51 am
Speaking of Vietnam, here’s a cool youtube video of a song written by a Vietnam vet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfslsdfFwIk
Comment by goodgolly — Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
“Im outta town, checkin in from NYC”
please stay there.
Comment by Gabe — Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 4:48 am
Gabe: Please take your right-wing talking points back to Free Republic. We smell your troll scent from a mile away. You’re a total bore.
Comment by Vriendje — Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Maybe Gabe will get lost in the wilderness on his trip to the Sierras.
Comment by Lorelei — Friday, August 22, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Maybe all of you will go whale watching together and the boat will sink………
Comment by Gabe — Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 4:16 pm
Gabe: Please take your right-wing talking points back to Free Republic. We smell your troll scent from a mile away. You’re a total bore.
Comment by Vriendje — Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
Never been to free republic Nimrod. I am not a partaker of the party line crowd or ANY of their websites or blogs.
BTW all I see here is the standard talking points from the ” move on dot org ” types and the standard DNC thinkg…………BORING!!! Except for Mutt that is. At least his thoughts seem somewhat original. ……crazy and warped yes, but original. It’s actually refreshing at times.
Comment by Gabe — Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
If it’s so boring, why do you come here?
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
Speaking of bumper stickers, here’s some I just received via email:
BUMPER STICKERS FOR ‘08 1. Bush: End of an Error 2. That’s OK, I Wasn’t Using My Civil Liberties Anyway 3. Let’s Fix Democracy in this Country First 4. If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran 5. Bush. Like a Rock. Only Dumber 6. If You Can Read This, You’re Not Our President 7. Of Course It Hurts: You’re Getting Screwed by an Elephant 8. Hey, Bush Supporters: Embarrassed Yet? 9. George Bush: Creating the Terrorists Our Kids Will Have to Fight 10. Impeachment: It’s Not Just for Blowjobs Anymore 11. America: One Nation, Under Surveillance 12. They Call Him ‘W’ So He Can Spell It 13. Whose God Do You Kill For? 14. Jail to the Chief 15. No, Seriously, Why Did We Invade Iraq? 16. Bush: God’s Way of Proving Intelligent Design is Full Of Crap 17. Bad President! No Banana 18. We Need a President Who’s Fluent In At Least One Language 19. We’re Making Enemies Faster Than We Can Kill Them 20. Is It Vietnam Yet? 21. Bush Doesn’t Care About White People, Either 22. Where Are We Going? And Why Are We In This Handbasket? 23. You Elected Him. You Deserve Him. 24. Dubya, Your Dad Shoulda Pulled Out, Too 25. When Bush Took Office, Gas Was $1.46 26. Pray For Impeachment 27. The Republican Party: Our Bridge to the 11th Century 28. What Part of ‘Bush Lied’ Don’t You Understand? 29. One Nation Under Clod 30. 2004: Embarrassed, 2005: Horrified, 2006: Terrified 31. Bush Never Exhaled 32. At Least Nixon Resigned
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 3:33 pm
To Stacy Taylor:
Since it is the beginning, already, of another school season, “algebra” is an apropos discussion for San Diego talk radio—especially since it is ssooo Muussllimm of a subject. That is to say that the word ‘algebra’ comes from one Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khowarizmi /al-chwarRIZmee/ an Arab scholar from Baghdad, who wrote on astronomy, geography and mathematics. His book’s title was named: “Algebra”.
But this factoid is not why this branch of mathematics is so fascinating to so many people-—especially engaging to young people—-after all did not the word ‘study’ in its original Latin root meaning once mean: eagerness, excitement and zealousness? So it is the jealous zealousness of early scholars that latched on to this abstruse subject with all its juicy adjectives of explanation—kind of like a romance novel?
After all it was the theoretical x, w, an z variables that could conspire into various hypothetical suppositions of abstract possibility that made it such a fine subject for those that needed to tidy up equal forms of symmetry and abstractness.
But as far as carry over of logical thinking skill to other forms of brain-power exercise-—it is most likely a delusion on a grand scale. Like the study of logic, or the practice of chess strategy, has both limited skill application in the real world, so too does the study of algebra on most people.
Whereas theory and abstraction has possibility (especially after 3 glasses of wine) and can more likely influence one’s life—-after all some of us do listen to the rhetoric of talk radio punditry occasionally speechifying about politicians—-who themselves find occasion to get all rhetorical.
Still we should not be so naively American to pressume that the study of philosophy was not meant to enrich the upper classes either—-like back in classical Greece. Historical rumor has it that most philosophers of Athens were hired to teach upper class kids of the aristocracy an art of rhetoric so they could eventually play statesmen and lawyer—-thus for prestige and financial remuneration of x = z if 2 + 2 = death and destruction.
So it was not so much that they were motivated to study truth and all its 1000 points of grey, but to at least “sound” learned and to argue sophistry of sorts—that is to razzle-dazzle the more ignorant masses with their elegant and lofty words—while they continued to have options to engage in contraries of action—-that is contrary to what they spouted as flummery and mummery.
Nevertheless it was those “Cynic” philosophers (the dogs) who claimed that “all” citizens of Athens had a right to study philosophy—-one did not need be from those snivelly uppity classes–like that Muusslimm Obama egghead of Harvard school of divinity. So let us then growl good cheer to the Arabs and Muslims for at least having enough good sense of translating those ancient classics before the ignoble Europeans of the Dark Ages destroyed them.
Larry
Comment by Larry Loutwald — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 4:43 pm
If it’s so boring, why do you come here?
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 3:28 pm
I said the typical talking points topic content was boring…not te site it’s self. FYI I have been coming to Stacy’s site for several years. Long before any of you folks did.
Comment by Gabe — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 5:47 pm
2. That’s OK, I Wasn’t Using My Civil Liberties Anyway
PRIME EXAPLE OF TALKING POINT bs. NONE OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY HAD ANY OF YOUR RIGHT REOVED NOR HAVE YOU BEEN DEDIED DOING ANYTHING THAT YOU NORMALLY DO. NEITHER HAVE I
Comment by Gabe — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 5:49 pm
. If You Want a Nation Ruled By Religion, Move to Iran
More talking point bs.^^
One Nation, under God indivisible, with liberty and justice for all………………In God we trust( it’s on your money)…………God bless America, land that I love, stand beside her, and guide her …..with the light from above.
Gee where do you think these statements came from…they are just the tip of the iceberg of stuff I could dig up and post……….Hint…..NOT IRAN.
Comment by Gabe — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 5:56 pm
From the Bill of Rights:
Amendments
First Amendment – Establishment Clause, Free Exercise Clause; freedom of speech, of the press, and of assembly; right to petition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 8:11 pm
“That’s OK, I Wasn’t Using My Civil Liberties Anyway
PRIME EXAPLE OF TALKING POINT bs. NONE OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY HAD ANY OF YOUR RIGHT REOVED NOR HAVE YOU BEEN DEDIED DOING ANYTHING THAT YOU NORMALLY DO. NEITHER HAVE I
Also from the Bill of Rights: This includes wiretapping and bugging, like what happened with Watergate, why Nixon resigned. The extent of civil liberties violations by the Bush administration makes what Nixon did seem minor in comparison. Maybe you haven’t had your civil liberties violated, but how would you feel if you were renditioned to another country and tortured for several years and you were innocent?
Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Comment by goodgolly — Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 8:23 pm
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
As of yet Congress has not established a religion so you have nothing to fear. Many in the left however have been trying very hard to restrict the free exercise of religion and churches have had restrictions placed on them by the federal and state governments. Mosty through intimidation and mocking religion etc. It don’t work on me. I exercise mine freeing when ever and where ever I want to. Just like the consitution says I can.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:00 am
Many so called civil liberities have been restricted at certain times in this coutry in case you didn’t know. It has usually been in times of war. Temporary measures have been taken and restrictions put on the free press in such times in order to protect the citizens and there safety. What this admisitration has done is nothing new. You simply see it that way because you hate Bush so much that you percieve anything he does as some hidious evil. At least that is the way I hear it played out on the talk shows and here. You would think that Bush is some dectator that is going to never leave office and is going to take away everyones rights to do anything that he does not want done. It’s silly fear mongering and nothing of the sort is going to happen.
Bush alone can’t acomplish any of these percieved evils without the consent of congress and the courts. So if your rights have been taken away( which they have not been) you can lay equal blame to the 3 branches of the governmant. They did it all together . That includes all the Democrates that have voted for this war and the temporary measures that are in place to protect us all.
Stop being so afraid of this false boogy man
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:12 am
To Larry: Yay Algebra…yay numbers…yay finite math.
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 6:06 am
Gosh goodgolly, those are all so good! I just can’t pick out a favorite. Maybe… “Hey, Bush Supporters: Embarrassed Yet?” or maybe “Impeachment: It’s Not Just for Blowjobs Anymore…
I still like my Pakistani bumper sticker, but I have to admit, it is a little bit embarrassing.
Comment by Lorelei — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 9:56 am
Love bumper sticker land! Two more…
I’m already visualizing the duct tape over your mouth. (with W in mind)
Necrophelia: That uncontrolable urge to crack open a cold one!
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 11:45 am
At this point I can only hope for two small asteroids. One to hit Denver, the other Minneapolis, so we can start over with some new candidates. Wait! Did I just suggest starting over??
Comment by Sammy — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 1:59 pm
Gabe: As I recall, Reagan apologized to the Japanese-Americans for their wrongful internment. Senator McCarthy was way out of line and the term “McCarthyism” still has a negative connotation today. Just because events happened in the past during wartime or not does not mean it’s okay. You’re not boring, you’re a boor.
Comment by goodgolly — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
I must have been napping when the House of Representitives (sic) declared war………Did the Senate rescind international treaties while I was workin on my bike?? I GOTTA pay more attention……Dipfish has done a stellar job of informing us of these events!
Comment by mutt — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Gabe: As I recall, Reagan apologized to the Japanese-Americans for their wrongful internment. Senator McCarthy was way out of line and the term “McCarthyism” still has a negative connotation today. Just because events happened in the past during wartime or not does not mean it’s okay. You’re not boring, you’re a boor.
Comment by goodgolly — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:21 pm
Gee for a moment there I actually thought I had found a person here to debate with that could dispense with all of the personal attacks and insults…….I was wrong……your just like the rest of the juvinile name callers here. When you don’t like or agree with the message you attack the messanger. I was hoping for better than that.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 6:22 pm
Reagan apologized to the Japanese-Americans for their wrongful internment
At the time is was the only safe thing to do IMO. Yet a few inocent people were locked up for no good reason. Being that we were under direct attack from Japan it made perfect sence to do what we did. Just because a President , 50 years later apologized for it does not mean it was the wrong thing to do at the time.
So the left wing thinks Bush is such a evil Hitler as you well know. Just how many people has he interned by Bush so far? As of yet none that I have heard of. Even after our country was attacked with just as much death and destruction as at pearl Harbor. And on civilians no less. Not even a military target. I think all things considered he has gone pretty lighty on the civil libertis stuff. Yo act like he has locked up all Muslims in this country just because we were attacked by a few of them. The loud mouth left has blown the entire thing totally out of proportion……that is just a simple fact. Trust me. I am no Bush fan Dude. he has been a waste of time as far as I am concerned but he is hardly the evil Hitler that the left makes him out to be…….it’s extreme sillyness they way he is talked about on the air waves. It’s a lot of partisan hot air and BS……like most of tose stupid bumper stickers. I laugh at people that put them on their cars. Like I care what they are thinking about anyway.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 6:41 pm
I must have been napping when the House of Representitives (sic) declared war………Did the Senate rescind international treaties while I was workin on my bike?? I GOTTA pay more attention……Dipfish has done a stellar job of informing us of these events!
Comment by mutt — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 5:25 pm
Stil the same old dumbmutt I see with his personal insults and all…………darn. You must have made it back home. Are you people ever going to grow up around here? Stacy has spent the ast few weeks twisting off abut how the right only has stupid slogans and no thought behind them. Then you people turn right around here and lift up a bunch of slogan type bumper stickers and talk about how bitchen the are………..take the logs out of your eyes. Do you guys even actually listen to Stacy or are you so blind to your own faults that you simply can’t see them at all? I sure can. They are quite glaring.
Comment by Gabe — Friday, August 29, 2008 @ 4:49 am
“I must have been napping when the House of Representitives (sic) declared war”
They certainly have done nothing to stop the war from taking place have they oh great dumb-one. You have been doing far more than napping. You have gone brain dead. You must have been snoozing when all of the senate etc stood in lock step with the President just after 911 and all of that? Since then a mere hand full of posturing loud mouths have stood against the war and voted against it just to make a show and keep the Demicommie base from going ape shit. Other than that they have voted for the war and it’s funding the whole way through. Even now they are barely even mentioning putting and end to it. Obama himself has not committed to ending it either in a solid manner. Do you people just close your eyes and ears on purpose or what? IMO the war should have been over in 6 months tops but these idiots that we have elected just keep on voting to keep it going………they don’t listen to the public at all anymore do they? I do believe that opinion plls are hugely in favor of putting a swift end to this conflict and have for years now. So why don’t the Democrates and Repubs look at that and tell BUSH to stuff it and cut off the money and bring the troops home then? Because they are all cowards, that’s why. They have to real guts of convictions as far as I can see. They are to afraid they won’t get elected again. That is why I will not join any of their political parties. They are all gross hypocrites and money driven puer politicians. That includes the SAVIOUR OBAMA and his acomplices.If you think that he is any different then you really have been napping with your head in the sand. The man has changed his position many times now in order to get elected. That is a politican and not a man of priniple. If he gets elected he will be a waste of time.
Comment by Gabe — Friday, August 29, 2008 @ 5:10 am
Gee for a moment there I actually thought I had found a person here to debate with that could dispense with all of the personal attacks and insults…….I was wrong……your just like the rest of the juvinile name callers here. When you don’t like or agree with the message you attack the messanger. I was hoping for better than that.
Comment by Gabe — Thursday, August 28, 2008 @ 6:22 pm
I apologize for lowering myself to your level
Comment by goodgolly — Friday, August 29, 2008 @ 11:30 am
Gabe:
“YOU ARE SO RIGHT. I CAN’T BELIEVE HOW SMART YOU ARE. PEARLS OF WISDOM FLOW FROM YOUR SOUL. YOU’RE GREAT.
LET’S DO LUNCH!”
Comment by Rita in Mission Beach — Saturday, August 30, 2008 @ 7:17 am
I don’t know if the American corporate media’s inflating or manipulating John McCain’s numbers when it comes to the head to head polls between Obama & McCain. So I’m going on the assumption that the American electorate are a bunch of dumbshits, pro status quo, & easily frightened sheep wanting to be lead further more to the slaughter. But as far as Americans goes, I don’t get it. 80 to 90% of Americans don’t like the direction this country’s going under Bush over the last 8 years. And yet, 48% of the people are still considering voting for McCain/ Palin this November. I can’t understand that at all. But you gotta hand to us, at least we’re consistent when it comes to screwing ourselves time and time again.
Comment by Paul — Monday, September 1, 2008 @ 6:59 am
the serious comments on this thread had me lookin for this article- took a while, explains a lot…..
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/062908.html
Comment by mutt — Thursday, September 4, 2008 @ 8:43 am